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Hi Jonibake.Just letting a little air out of the tyre so to speak.I felt some people were headig for a blowout.Think of the times JP has sat beside a horse he loved waiting for the gun! You love’em but let ’em go.A lot worse than getting beaten. That’s life. Of course I speak a lot of crap at times.Anyone who makes as many comments as I is bound to spout a lot of crap.
Jeez a throwaway remark you guys really need to get a grip and not take yourselves so seriously
Enjoy the horse for christ sake !!!
A tiresome and incorrect analogy indeed. Comparing Bolt/Frankel doesn’t work for many reasons.
However, asking Bolt to do an extra 125 metres is asking alot.
Yes I understand that, it’s what I would have thought.
If you have any understand of how athletes like him train, then asking him to train for 400M along with 100M/200M …. well it’s rather insane. Such a training programme isn’t done, because it will not work. A vast difference between 100M and 400M and you can’t do all 3 events.
Who mentioned anything about 400M – I didn’t.
Of course, the anaology is in keeping with the regular nonsense in this thread.
If you think it’s all nonsense, then don’t read it. Try Fashion.
Hammy you are emotionally tied to this horse.That is not good.he is just a horse;four legs,two ears a tail,so he can run as fast as the wind that is good but they are all there to be beaten and it will happen soon enough.Unless they(connections go into hiding)leave the scene without taking on the big challenges.Even Zenyatta went for the BC a second time and she was then beaten.Cigar was finally beaten. Then they retired him.That is the way sportsmen do it.
Not good? It’s the kind of emotion that keeps me sane Andy.
I think it was Peter O’Sullivan that said,
"He’s a good reason to stay alive."
He’s the best race horse I’ve ever seen. No question whatsoever.
God bless you Sir Henry. I doubt any doctor could provide you with a better tonic.
Hammy
An untried tyo will do the trick also.I am 79 next birthday and need a reason apart from food and drink.I swim every day all year round.I was ten years old when I first went racing at Baldoyle north Dublin.I have watched them come and go in the racing world.I now live in Sacramento CA.and am looking forward to going to Santa Anita to see another BC in November.Keep on posting. it is good exercise.Hammy
An untried tyo will do the trick also.I am 79 next birthday and need a reason apart from food and drink.I swim every day all year round.I was ten years old when I first went racing at Baldoyle north Dublin.I have watched them come and go in the racing world.I now live in Sacramento CA.and am looking forward to going to Santa Anita to see another BC in November.Keep on posting. it is good exercise.Good for you Andy.
I don’t always agree with you but I do like your style. Like you I don’t hold grudges and petty disagreements on internet forums are soon forgotten.
I hope he does step up at York. I’ve just this minute bought my ticket on-line. I haven’t a clue what it might mean, but I’ve also coughed up for the ‘Fish n Fizz’ option. Anyone?
Who mentioned anything about 400M – I didn’t.
The exact quote is " I’m sure Bolt could manage 125 metres or is that asking too much..?". Given he competes at 100/200, the next event up is the 400M. You implied it, so don’t try and dodge it. If you don’t know about something, then restrain from making uneducated assumptions.
If you think it’s all nonsense, then don’t read it. Try Fashion.
How did you know.
While it is always great to see Frankel race and I had the privilege to do so at Newbury in the Lockinge the Sussex is pointless. There isn’t a 3yo miler of any note in the country and he’s already slaughtered the older milers so I can’t see why Abdullah & Cecil bothered entering him in this, they should have stepped him up to 10f in the Eclipse.
As for the opposition not turning up you can’t blame Frankel’s connections and it is a bit rich when owners/trainers complain about prize money when fifth place today has a prize of £8,500 and is uncontested.
No way should Sir Henry have run him at Sandown when York is a much easier track and worth a lot more money.
You are all cribbing about him not running over 10 furlongs when the intentions to do so have always been there.
He’s won almost 1/2 million for his owner this season by going the easiest route and with the cash in the bank and the rating of a lifetime achieved now it wouldn’t matter if he did lose at York or Newmarket..which of course he wont.
People are a saying trainers weren’t willing to take him on for place money…but the same people expect Sir Henry to turn his back on almost guaranteed income for his yard and take silly risks.
Spock would have a field day with some of you lot.
He is now 1/4 for the International.
If he stays, he wins, simple as that, regardless of whatever turns up.
Perhaps the whingers will then finally put a sock in it.I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again – he would win the Nunny and Juddmonte in the same week. Won’t happen of course.
Edit – And some people would still say it was a weak 10f and 5f division!
I still think the true gauge to his brilliance was his crushing of Canford Cliffs. I don’t buy the ‘horse wasn’t right’ damage limitation line from Richard Hughes. Especially given that he claimed Frankel was the best horse he’s ever seen on the TV earlier today.
It is unfortunate that nobody dares to put their horses up against him over the mile. We can pontificate all we like -and I don’t doubt his brilliance will see him home over the 10 furlongs- but results tell you that this horse has no equal over the mile trip. That is what he should and will be remembered for. Being the best miler anyone has ever seen.
To annihilate another good horse over a mile as he did today was just incredible.
Why anyone should care what trip he wins over is truly beyond me. I’d be as grateful for his coming were he to be the best 5 furlong horse of all time or the best cup horse. To be the very best -almost certainly the best ever in fact- at anything should warrant homage from sports fans surely?
I’d argue with you there – which top milers has he not obliterated?
None that I can think of. Where did I say he hadn’t? I just mean’t the fields he faces are diminished because the other connections just cant see how he can be beaten. It is not what you’d call a normal situation is it? Has any horse before frightened off the competitors to such an extent?
"It is unfortunate that nobody dares to put their horses up against him over the mile."
"It is unfortunate that nobody dares to put their horses up against him over the mile."
I thought I’d just explained that? The clue is in ‘their horses’ as opposed to ‘their TOP horses’.
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