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I know she was well beaten by CPS last time but that came possibly a bit quick for her after a hard race in the Schloer and as HDB has said the track didn’t suit her.
Wouldn’t it worry you at all that she had to get pretty serious to win that Schloer? DDG wouldn’t get mapped behind top top 2mile chasers.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Not really Jack…
We know DDG is well short of champion chase class but was given an easy lead that day and Coleman said afterwards she hated the ground and he was about to let her coast home and accept the defeat but she wanted to win and she dug it out. Let’s not forget it was her first run of the season too…CPS was beaten on his return last season by a horse 2nd favourite for this years gold cup and Altior on his first run this season only finished just under 5 lengths in front of DDG…
The big thing for me with her is the liking of Cheltenham, she’s 3/3 so clearly likes the place…she had a fair bit to find on ratings in last years Arkle but found it…there’s absolutely no doubt Henry will have her in tip top shape after the break she’s had and in my opinion CPS will be facing a completely different proposition in her from last time…can easily see her reversing that form…
Chacuns already laughed at PTKO, whys this even a question/discussion
Hed have to run about 2 stone under par for her to win…
He literally laughed at that opposition that day, if you believe cheltenham the track is going to change that your mad and if you believe she wasnt primed for a christmas grade 1 at leopardstown your also mad
Simply not good enough.
She will be lucky to finish in the first half of the field, 160 at her best so far with the allowance factored in, shes way below half the field
Another way of putting that is CPS was beaten by a horse on his seasonal debut that went on to finish 1.5ls third in the Ryanair on his next start.
Fair points on the easy leads and course form. I agree with know Henry will have her cherry ripe for this. The issue has to be whether she’s up to this level. I’d doubt it.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Shes absolutely no chance even without chacun in the race, if a horse whos rated 161 factoring in the sex allowance after 8 starts wins the CC somethings gone wrong jack, shed need to be more than cherry ripe, shed need a 3rd lung.
Shes weight to find with almost all of them to get by them never mind a multiple open company group 1 winner who after this race will be the highest rated in training. Ill be surprised if he comes off the bridle at this point.
To put it into perspective, hes rated 1lb off altiors highest ever rating, if altior was running in peak form youd laugh at the idea PTKO could get near him
Chacuns only dangers are either himself or altior somehow running to his peak form, but even then that may not be enough.
I hope theres no hiccups between now and next week as were going to see something pretty special, thats obvious though, hes already shown superiority.
As we all know…Cheltenham races aren’t won at Christmas…totally different, track, conditions, race…I seem to remember Defi Du Seuil laughing at Politologue in last seasons Tingle Creek….
Thanks guys, sorry that was lazy of me. I do agree though that It’s down to CPS to win the race. Everyone has to win at a course for a first time I guess. And whilst ratings have them 1lb apart, I’d think that peak Altior would do what peak Altior did to other horses and just get the job done.
Agree there Zam that’s the minor concern anyone who doesn’t like backing favourites can have. I personally will just sit out the race and watch him win (IMO).
Let’s be honest, we have to see a very very below par Chacun to envisage Put The Kettle On troubling him. She has good course form, but what’s she beat in gaining the course specialist tag? Fakir D’Oudairies, Al Dancer and DDG. Hardly stellar and her rating of 154 leaves her with a lot of improvement needed.
If i had to bet, i’d side with Altior e/w
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!CPS looks an unlikely winner on trends, 12/12 of the lasts 12 winners had all previously ran at Cheltenham. Definitely not bullet proof at all. If Altior turns up (highly debatable imo) then he will be pulled up after a circuit if he is on a going day (sooner if he isn’t).
Definitely some value to be found here. 50/1 ew on Cilaos Emery will be an outstanding bet if he turns up which isn’t certain, but it’s Emery who gives Mullins the best chance of winning here imo if he shows.
If he doesn’t show then the value must lie elsewhere.I beg to differ. Pulled up after one circuit still leaves the fences in the home straight to jump. Pulled up 4 from home if he is on form.
Because for one even at his peak he was only an average champion chase winner at best (insanely over hyped thus animal). He hasn’t shown his best form for years now. Pulled up, standing ovation and retired. Don’t be surprised if he is retired before the festival. Im half expecting a bad scope, an accident at home or something else (after the outfit have laid the shizzle out of him after announcing to the press that he has never been better).
Average champion chase winner at best ? Hahaha
Last 10 years winners:
Politologue- thrashed him no end of times
Altior
Altior
Special tiara
Sprinter Sacre
Dodging bullets
Sire de grugy
Sprinter Sacre
Finians rainbow
Sizing Europe
Big zebHe’s the 2nd best champion chase on that list by a long way. So I’d say he’s well above average mate. He went unbeaten 21 races in a row which is a record
Throw in his multiple wins over the hugely talented Un De Sceaux on heavy ground and beating Min multiple times easily.
The only horses in the last few decades you could argue are better is Sprinter Sacre, master minded and Moscow flyer.
So I think it’s a disgrace that you say he’s an average champion chase winner at best and if anything it shows you’re complete incompetent in terms of judgement to be honest mate.
Claiming at his peak he would be pulled up ? I know that’s tongue in cheek but **** me mate he’s already thrashed all these in the past bar chacun pour soi and like I’ve already highlighted, he’s in the top 4 winners of the last few decades. So wind your neck in.
Having said all that it’s highly unlikely that this season he will turn up at his best given his age so I’m not expecting him to win. I just think your comments are truly ridiculous
Why so serious Robert?
I agree he’s been a shadow of himself for quite some time, but to say he’s a below average Champion Chaser (dual QMCC winner that is) is not something I can agree with. Timeform had him 179 in his pomp, and even then he looked to be holding a bit back for himself. Form doesn’t lie either as Jasolong says above in a now-succinct way.
I’m not saying it’s likely (He’s 7/1 for a reason) but people we’re saying the same retirement things before Sprinter won in 2016. ‘Pieces could have a very good effect on him travelling aswell – He’s become lazy.
Yeah robbo, cilaos hasnt a chance with chacun regardless of what stats say, it could be no winners from 100 and the stat would still be utterly useless, CE’s form taken a dent again yesterday
I like the horse, could sneak a place, not a chance he will win if the fav runs his race
Altior out..
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