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I must say I had major doubts about Calyx turning up here.
A lot of talk on here re Johnny G and his handling of the situations regarding his two!! Personally I don’t think he has done a lot wrong and pretty much told us all that there were doubts regarding both of them.IMO he is not the sort of trainer to have guineas winners as he seems to prefer to bring most of them along gently hence his bad record in the guineas.
As you all know I am on ADVERTISE and it is nice to see a few others joining in on that one. It does look an open race to me and if any of the top ten in the betting won it I wouldn’t be surprised but I will stick with my MANY ante post vouchers on ADVERTISE and will probably bet another one come race day.Good Luck Guys
@Ginger…Oh that soon for Calyx I thought they meant Royal Ascot. However,I’ll still believe it when I see him as still think he doesn’t look right, but JG has all the answers.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Card on Weds is looking pretty tasty though! Looks like Mohaather is going to miss now as well, dropping like flies!
At least witch Cecil and Frankel he told punters to keep their money and not stick it on Frankel for the Derby!! Gosden said he’d give the horse every chance knowwing full well he didn’t want to run him IMO
Have added madhmoon at 9s to the 14s I already had on royal marine before his dissapointing craven run
Hopefull one of them will be bang there (if turning up which judging by this race ante post will be an achievement in itself)
Madhmoon’s come into 3rd fav on the exchanges now
I don’t quite get it with Royal Marine. You have to go back 18 years to the last time a horse won the Guineas having posted a previous race RPR as low as 107 and Golan that day was only a Maiden Winner.
He’s had 2 bad runs now. Horses don’t win Guineas generally after 2 bad runs. I see why he might improve on his last run, but he has so much to do, he’s a 16/1 shot for me. SBS reaching for the hood apparently now as well, again he could improve on that, but doesn’t that worry people, he’s reaching for a hood after 5 runs?
He’s as low as 6/1 in some bookmakers? Where has that come from? Just off the back of the Grp1 win last year I guess? Do people think he really is a 6/1 shot and we should expect a massive improvement next Saturday?
Was there any excuse from the connections of Anodor after that Group 1 race in France.?
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He has one bad run really
The one on dirt has no relevance whatsoever to the guineas
And he was given an awful ride by soumillon in the other
as I said I backed him before the craven, would I back him at 6s now no probably not but in a race where most of the horses are dodgy stayers I’m happy to have him on my side
And this isn’t a normal guineas, the top 4 or 5 horses are all missing through injury or running elsewhere, it’s very unlikely the winner of this will be a superstar
I’d be happy with the 14s FF, just don’t get the 6s. Half of them have a chance to be fair, it has cut up, but I’m not sure its “not a normal guineas”, yes there’s been injuries, but there are still some pretty decent rated horses left. Without looking deeper, it’s probably about a little less than an average guineas, so the trends should still apply as a base for decision.
I’ve just placed my final Guineas bets – Advertise (12/1 E/W) & Kick On (40/1 E/W)
I think the former has arguably the best form of the race. His only two defeats came behind Too Darn Hot and Calyx. Asides from that, he looked a very decent horse all year and deserves his place in this. With Dettori on board too, I definitely think he’s overpriced. I’ve had a point each way.
Kick On might not be the classiest horse in the race but he’s match fit for sure (unlike so many of those above him in the market), has won on the Rowley Mile – handling the dip very well last time – and again looks overpriced. Again I’ve had an each way play – this time for half a point each way.
Final 2000 Guineas bets:
Royal Marine – 1 point win @ 6/1
Advertise – 1 point each way @ 12/1
Kick On – 0.5 point each way @ 40/1Hopefully you are right with Advertise MOM
I have been going on about him for months and backing him accordingly. If he prevails this would be my best ante post punt for a long time am on at all prices down from a little 25/1 a lot of 20/1 and 16/1 and even backed him again at 12/1 !!
As I have said I will probably back something else as well come race day but am undecided as to what.
Good Luck
Also think that Advertise is the best form in the race (now that Calyx is out).
Mohatheer also out per RP
At least witch Cecil and Frankel he told punters to keep their money and not stick it on Frankel for the Derby!! Gosden said he’d give the horse every chance knowwing full well he didn’t want to run him IMO
When did Gosden tell punters to back him?
How can you possibly know that Gosden didn’t want to run?
What would be the point of entering or telling the press if that were the case?
Gosden tells the press/us how it is at that particular moment in time. Punters seem to read between the lines, get the meaning wrong and then blame the trainer.At least Gosden talks about the options; other trainers say nothing until the decision is made.
Saying he’d give the horse “every chance” means exactly that. If showing he’s ready at home (in temperament as well as ability) then the horse runs; if not showing he’s ready he won’t…
He didn’t therefore he doesn’t.
Value Is Everythingdon’t agree with this. It was clear that Too Darn Hot had heat in his leg was never a definite runner and announcement made when they said and they made it.
It was also clear that Calyx was coming back from a long term injury and the money was going down even though he was never a definite runner and an announcement was yet to be made.
As far as I am concerned punters took a risk and it didn’t pay off. No point blaming the trainer, he never said they were definite runners.
This + GT’s post above.
You’d think Gosden was a crook the way some of you get on. He never once said he was a surefire runner. Everyone jumped the gun. If you back a horse antepost, you take your chance knowing he’s not declared yet.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!I backed Calyx ages back, and that bet is now floating down the Suwannee. I’ve
followed in with MOM, and had a hopeful e/w on Kick On at 40/1 with
Boylesports. To be honest I’m not sure JG will send him here, he may well be
Dante bound. However, at the odds Boylesports are offering I’ll take the chance.
If he does end up heading here he’ll be half that price, but as I say, it’s
a bit touch and goAgree on the anti-post thing, as punters we take a chance, the owners and trainers can do what they want and they are entitled to hedge their bets as long as they want/the horse needs. Crazy complaining now. JG is not the most antipost friendly trainer out there to be fair, but come on, antipost is antipost!
With Advertise, there is no point having the best form in the book if he won’t stay the distance. He has about as much chance of staying as Ten Sovereigns does for me. It’s possible if it’s not a proper gallop, so good luck with everyones chances, but my prediction is that he will run with credit, but then drop down in trip to either the Commonwealth Cup (I’m on at 20s) or the Jersey.
I think Kick On is being aimed at the French Derby no?
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