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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    No, not at all Hein, you English is better than mine
    I wrongly thought that you were using the word hype instead of perhaps poor value
    but you put that right

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    Thank you very much Nathan!
    Don’t exaggerate, but I appreciate it.

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    Surprise, surprise. Update on Calyx

    Grimthorpe said: “There is no decision if we run or not (yet), because we have a couple of things to discuss.

    “Frankie, in terms of how the horse is, is happy with him.

    “We have to make a decision by Sunday anyway – and that’s when it will be done.”

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    Magna Grecia now fav on betfair exchange

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    Well at least we have a deadline now from Teddy G.

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    Now it has happened :cry:
    I have to digest this and live with it, a tour of rowing will help :bye:

    #1423117
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    The ante-post jinx continues.

    …Although suspect connections have done the right thing for both Too Darn Hot and Calyx.

    :cry: :cry: :cry:

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    Mike007
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    Haha Calyx. U gotta laugh.

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    newyork1
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    they really are full of it!! They knew rightly that the horse was never gonna run. Hope he trails home last on Wednesday now.

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    nwalton
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    Just thought i would pop in one last time, hope everyone is well. This was posted by a FRAUD on this thread a couple of months ago, but the poster is not to be trusted BEWARE.
    Good luck to all the good guys/girls have a great season. xx :rose:

    We will know before The Pavilion at Ascot ( although think it has a new name this year) but would be interesting if Calyx gets an entry in that race. Gosden/Owner has had runners in this recently

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    Hi NW :bye: great to see you back and well done to tbat fraud who had the insight to read the mind of Mr Smoke and Mirrors :good:

    When you look at Calyx recent photo on RP going out of the empty parade ring to gallop down the Rowley Mile he just doesn’t look right.
    Hope all the AP posters that went in never trust an early Gosden horse again he is in the fortunate position to know exactly what is going on unlike poor old Joe Public.

    Unlike Mike not laughing but think it’s a shame for all who backed him that he is out and really sorry for the horse, by the look of him he’s definitely not right so in tbat respect glad that he doesn’t run.
    Jac :rose:

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    nwalton
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    Cheers Jac i will keep looking in and checking your posts for the blues in blue and again when meydan comes round good luck for the coming season :rose:

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    Austin
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    Pretty poor from Gosden here TBH. He has the best horses in his stable but cant prepare anyone for the Guineas in time. I am not saying Gosden is causing his horses getting injured but too often we have noticed his main horses miss the big races with miraculous injuries/excuses. Lah Di Dar before Oaks last year gets injured, Enable out injured almost whole year, Calyx gets injured just after 2 runs and still not ready, Cracksman missing many good races due to not enough rain excuse and now TDH is out. If Prince Khaled not pushed, Enable would have called off the season after Arc last year and never traveled to America. Remember, Kingman was also given a poor campaign and retired too soon.

    As race lovers…we would want to see the best horses running in a major races like Guineas. But with both TDH and Calyx out we miss out on the opportunity to watch the best horses run. Thank god Frankel was not trained by Gosden.

    I would now bet on Advertise to win the 2000Guineas under Oisin Murphy. ;-)

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    It’s not that Calyx is not going to be seen, Jac; we’ll see him before the Guineas – on Wednesday.

    I see a lot of similarities with Gosden/Calyx and Cecil/Frankel, Austin.
    After the Guineas there was a clammer for Frankel to go for the 1m4f Derby, but Sir Henry knew the horse’s mentality wouldn’t have been up to the job (wouldn’t settle). Keeping the horse at a trip Frankel was sure to suit until ready for a step up to 1m2f. Had his trainer run Frankel at Epsom it could well have set the horse back enormously and we may never have had the brilliant Frankel.

    Both Frankel and Calyx are/were enthusiastic types at two.

    Calyx is an immature horse, had only two races in his life and those came in quick succession. Had Calyx been able to have a normal 2 year old campaign would probably have already run at 7f in 2018… and now been ready for the mile. But was injured so couldn’t develop. Going up from 6f to 1m – for an enthusiastic, edgy sort who’d been blanketed for stalls entry etc – can be an ordeal. Running Calyx in the Guineas would’ve been taking a risk with his future career (just like Frankel had he gone to the Derby when not ready). Am sure connections wanted to give Calyx every opportunity to run in the Guineas – and that’s what they did. Had Calyx shown he’d settled at home (and shown enough maturity at home) am sure he’d have run in the Guineas. Fact is Johnny G never said Calyx would run and many chose to read between the lines. I’m as disappointed as anyone and my wallet is even more dissapointed! Not running (not taking a big chance of ruinning the horse when he’s mentally not ready) may well pay dividends in the long run – as it has with many other Gosden horses.

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    newyork1
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    With regards to frankel gingertipser that’s a load of bull

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    Mike007
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    Austin

    Pretty poor from Gosden here TBH. He has the best horses in his stable but cant prepare anyone for the Guineas in time.

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    don’t agree with this. It was clear that Too Darn Hot had heat in his leg was never a definite runner and announcement made when they said and they made it.

    It was also clear that Calyx was coming back from a long term injury and the money was going down even though he was never a definite runner and an announcement was yet to be made.

    As far as I am concerned punters took a risk and it didn’t pay off. No point blaming the trainer, he never said they were definite runners.

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