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I agree with the importance of going and is the next impotant variable after raw ability of the horse. The last time I looked at sire stats for going preference a few years ago the results were not very encouraging. Got some new tools now and planning to revisit this.
If ID gets his ahnds on this forum it will be the beginning of the end. He is banned from here, banned from the the Betfair place and his ego is too big for this place.
EW, I would be very wary of using any time/speed ratings data from Raceform. I have been a user of their computer based form applications for years but only recently discovered how crude some of their work is. My interest in race times is to estimate the going rather than compiling speed ratings. According to Raceform the going at Brighton on 15th June was Good.
jackane, how would you quantify the difference these two top riders make to the chance of a horse winning a race in terms of a percentage advantage?
I take you point Artemis but in terms of the key variables I still see the jockeys as of minimal value to the ability of the horse. In a handicap for jockeyship I would not have much between about 30 pro jockeys. I do recognise certain horse jockey combinations do produce above average performances. Also, some jockeys do ride a particular course well but the raw ability of the horse is paramount.
Gus is correct and the journalists are too quick to praise jockeys. They need to write something to fill their pages and latch on to soft targets.
It’s the horses that win the races the jockeys are just bit part players.
Very sad news. The online racing community owe so much to daylight for his superb work in developing TRF as the best forum for our sport.
Longchamp Lad , I’m sure you are correct and we will see a different horse on slow ground. Also a proper galloping track without a camber will help. You can excuse any horse failing to act at such a hideous track as Epsom.
Monkey, totally agree about Goodwood staging top class racing. The main problem is the distinct kink in the far side running rail in the "straight".
I love the variety of our courses as this adds so much interest but surely something could be done at Goodwood the realign the track from the turn ins?
clivex, your figures are realistic for a serious punter but if you apply the same knowledge of the subjet to trading a much better return is possible from a modest bank.
I’m not interested in getting into slanging matches on here. This is by far the best racing discussion forum on the web and hope it stays that way. We are fortunate to have a number of well known punters & industry journalists reguarly posting here but I’m sure they would not continue to support this forum if it turned into a Betfair like mad house. Tipsters, rampers and spammers should go elsewhere and lets keep this place for sensible discussion on racing/betting issues.
caravan, I have tried Betangel and all the other trading apps I find but I commissioned a programmer do build an app to suit me. BA pro is good but over complicated for some users and has too many overlapping features. It also shares a common flaw with all the other apps I have tested so far in that it is one-race-at-a-time.
My application is based on a whole days trading on once page. I typically trade between 5 and 10 races per day and like to monitor these on a single page specifically designed to run on a very small laptop with a widescreen display.
IRSHEYEZ, about 85% of my trades are positive this year so far. I look to make an initial margin of 4 ticks and use a stop loss of 3 with good results. Backing the night before does not seem to work for me and I prefer to wait until the market is formed and the book is trading at less than 105%.
There are some very powerful market influences and it is key to be on top of these to gain some good prices.
I’ve only logged on here a couple of times in the last week or so and seen you go out on a limb with losing tips. Maybe I just caught the losers.
I don’t understand people giving out tips on a discussion forum.
This place has been refreshingly free of tipsters especially in this section and I think it is still the best horse racing discussion forum around. I have read and appreciated a few of your postings in recent months but putting up tips is so boring and is really the stock trade on the Betfair place. The might aceform has dug enough holes for himself and lost numerous banks trying to prove to all he is a judge of horse race betting.
<br>PS. Daily Plays & Lays looks the ideal outlet for your tips.
(Edited by Wallace at 10:35 pm on May 13, 2006)
