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I dont think Meade is that great of at all. Just gets plenty of firepower. A lot of his tend be bridle horses or glorious underachievers. Prob agree Mullins is the best trainer over jumps in Ireland. Paul Nolan would be a favourite of mine too.
Seemed to be a very rough race yesterday.
Were there any bans handed out to the jocks?
Buick will have been very lucky if he didn’t get one for his ride on Caranbola.
Colin
Had to laugh at John Francomes comment immediately after the race. ”There were no hard luck storys”. Care to look before speaking Johnny?
Ye shower of stuffy oul codgers. Chappers is brilliant. Mellish and co over on RUK would bore you to tears. ATR sign up Ted Walsh now and you’ll have the perfect team.
I actually saw a similar predicament in the bookies about a month or two ago.
Some people may remember the race in question-
My mate (not me) backed some ruby walsh horse, and basically after the last jump the horse went out of bounds but crossed the line in first. All the old fellas in the bookies were saying that the race would go to the second horse, but to try it anyway. The result came through with the ruby walsh horse as the winner and my mate got paid out.
Then it came up that there was a stewards inquiry and result was over turned. The girl behind the counter came out and asked my mate for the money back, and he said no. He felt that he had picked the winner of the race and it was only a technicality that his horse was not the winner. I said to him to just pay it back as it was only a small amount, and he knew before collecting that it was dodgy and the girl who was usually sound enough was getting a right strop on. But even the old fellas in the bookies were saying dont pay her back.
I wasnt really paying attention to what was going on that much but the girl behind the counter put him on to the William Hill head office and the bloke at head office told him that it was a genuine mistake on SIS and that because he had been paid out, they could not ask for the money back.
The two of them still arent on the best of terms over that even now, but it really all just comes down to peoples perceptions of right and wrong.
Punters are generally frowned upon by those with the moral high ground, and I know that bookmakers staff are too. I used to work in an insurance brokers and I remember that there were three professions that the insurance companies loaded for (Travellers, Market Stall Traders and Bookmakers staff) because they were viewed as people of low morality.
In any betting shop Ive ever been into, I couldnt say that there is one where everyone is straight as an arrow, but I take people as I find them.
I was raised honest and by nature always am that way, but I accept that most people in the betting fraternity have flexible morals, I do not really look down my nose at people for being that way, because if I was totally on the straight and narrow myself I wouldnt even be betting.
By far the best post on the subject.
Brilliant. I remember a lad telling me about a scam he used to pull way back before computer timed dockets or anything high tech. Basically they used to distract the counter staff for a few moments during which time the stamp which would be used to indicate the time of bet placement would be procured and altered by a minute or so before being returned to its place. This would allow them to back winners in dog races with the docket stamped at just before the off.
I appreciate the Mullins-only link, but still feel its a bit of a liberty.
Ruby is based in Ireland and as far as I know Mullins actually has 1st claim on him.
Saturday 19th July
Pennys Gift
3.25 ”Weatherbys Super Sprint” Newbury
Every so often these sales races contain a pattern performer off a low weight. This year is no exception and while you’d be worried about what side opf the draw is the right one. At these weights this one looks a good thing.Unp 3/1[/color:35r536au]
Bankable
4.30 Newbury
Would look good enough to take this fairly ordinary listed event and you’d have to think the extra distance can only be a plus given his pedigree and run style.2nd 5/4[/color:35r536au]
William Butler
3.40 Market Rasen
Been on the go a bit lately and this is the toughest company he’ll have faced so far. He does look a decent horse though and if his recent exertions havent taken too much out of him he should have a top chance here.NAP3rd 5/1[/color:35r536au]
Friday 18th July
Cosmea
Convincing winner at Windsor lto. The ease of victory and the way she cruised into contention lead me to believe she should have no bother coping with the drop in trip
1st 4/1[/color:2h0ftynu]S/R 50%
P/L +16.5[/color:2h0ftynu]If HTN is half as good as Aidan thinks he is this should be a procession. In fact on what he’s shown so far it probably will be anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8feCATCox94
I would suggest you watch again. Looks comfortable enough for me. SOF was well placed and simply not good enough
Having reviewed it I make no alteration to initial judgement. Certainly looked to get outpaced turning in. SOF is a confirmed mudlark and wouldn’t exactly have much of a turn of foot on good ground. It was a good performance by Youmzain no doubt but just couldn’t see DOM being as paceless.
Youmzain won last start – beat Soldier Of Fortune comfortably although the margin suggests otherwise. Forgotten already?
I think Youmzain has actually improved over the Winter. It would be his last wave of improvement surely, but he has proven that cutting Dylan Thomas out of the picture and there’s an Arc and King George in the bag from last year. Now it’s time to step up.
7/2 isn’t a price to latch onto immediately, so I will wait.
I dont think Youmzain beat SOF that comfortably at all. SOF is a galloper and got caught for toe but he was grabbing back ground near the line. Couldn’t see Duke Of Marmalade being done for pace given his form over a mile. If he stays he romps in imo.
Form would rate pretty similar to New Approachs derby win on a line through Doctor Fremantle. Would imagine New Approach would have improvement in him if he learns to settle, thats if he makes it there at all.
Tuesday 15th July
Aeroplane
7.40 Great Leighs
I think Jamie Spencer might prove to be the ideal pilot for this most quirky of horses. After his Haydock third where he showed a fine turn of foot to pass the entire field and shoot 3 lenghts clear only to realise what he’d done and promptly pull himself up, I logged him in my notebook with comments to the effect that a drop to 6f and an exaggerated hold up ride posiibly from Spencer might be the key to him. Looks like I got my wish today so we’ll see.
Monday 14th July
Montmarte
This is probably closer to the real French Derby these days than the Jockey Club (edited misread form) I would much rather have someone like Soumillon on my side in a French group race than most of the Irish/English jocks bar Murtagh but AV looks a headcase. Cristophe to outride the field.1st 9/2[/color:anosa1mx]
S/R 50%
P/L + 13.5[/color:anosa1mx]Tipperary claimed their first Munster SHC title since 2001 as they overcame Clare in a disappointingly one-sided final at the Gaelic Grounds this afternoon.
Goals in either half from Seamus Callinan (1-03) and John O’Brien (1-04) helped the National League champions to a comfortable eight-point win.
With Conor Plunkett badly exposed at centre-back and a first half wides tally of 10, Clare struggled initially in defence and attack.
1-11 to 0-06 behind at half-time, the Banner men, aided by Niall Gilligan’s 0-08 haul, revived their chances by closing the gap to five points but O’Brien’s 58th-minute major clinically sealed the issue.
Tipperary’s 37th provincial success was memorably cheered to the rafters by the Premier county contingent in the 48,076-strong crowd, as the Liam Sheedy-managed team maintained their unbeaten run in 2008.
Sheedy’s first season at the helm could hardly have gone any better to date, with three trophies now safely locked away (they were also Waterford Crystal Cup winners in January).
With a neat blend of youth and experience, Tipp look to be the coming team this year and they deservedly have an All-Ireland semi-final at Croke Park to look forward to next month.
Clare suffered greatly due to a poor first half. Had they been closer at the break, there might have been a different result but Tipp got their goals at crucial times and those strikes gave them enough breathing space to see out the win.
Clare took to the pitch showing just one change to the team that started their semi-final win over Limerick, with Gerry Quinn taking over at wing-back from the suspended Brendan Bugler.
For Tipp, Pat Kerwick and John O’Brien came into the half-forward line as the two changes to the side that beat Cork last time out.
Meeting in a Munster final for the first time since 1997, these counties both had reasons to be optimistic given their recent championship form.
But it was Tipp who showed all the early promise with three crisply-struck points from James Woodlock, Lar Corbett and team captain Eoin Kelly.
Woodlock barrelled through Clare’s centre before firing over off his right for the lead point in the second-minute.
Clare made a number of positional switches in their forward lines and they took their time to settle as Tony Griffin and Mark Flaherty both hit early wides.
In the fifth-minute, Corbett superbly controlled a huge clearance from Shane McGrath, showing lovely balance before tapping over from close range.
Kelly followed up with a third point before Flaherty eased Clare’s nerves with a pinpoint free for 0-03 to 0-01.
But although both Gilligan and Diarmuid McMahon were guilty of some poor shooting, Clare were soon back level at 0-04 apiece thanks to overs from Flaherty (free), Colin Lynch and Tony Carmody.
Tipp foraged ahead again with well-taken points from McGrath and the on song Corbett.
Worryingly for Clare manager Mike McNamara, his side had accumulated six wides by the midpoint of the first half, with both Jonathan Clancy and McMahon shooting wide of the uprights.
The conquerors of 2007 champions Waterford also dropped a number of balls short into the grateful arms of Tipperary goalkeeper Brendan Cummins, who was razor-sharp once again between the posts.
Pat Kerwick ended a seven-minute scoreless spell to increase Tipp’s advantage and that was soon a ‘double scores’ lead.
Thriving in the open expanses of the Limerick venue, it was interesting to note that Tipp had tallied up nine points from play before Kelly converted a 25th-minute free for a 0-10 to 0-05 lead.
Callinan and O’Brien were proving too hot to handle for a Clare defence that tried gamely to close off any danger.
Worse followed for McNamara’s side in the 27th-minute when Callinan powered through on a meandering 20-metre run, cutting in from the right before unleashing a rocket of a shot past Clare net minder Philip Brennan.
Tipp were now laying siege to the Clare goal and Frank Lohan, just moments later, had to show good reactions to block a goal-bound effort from the 19-year-old Callinan.
The rebound fell nicely for Corbett but his attempt was miss-hit and Clare breathed a sigh of relief.
Gilligan came to his side’s rescue again when he pointed to end a barren 23-minute spell for them, but Kelly was quick to respond at the other end, leaving Tipp with an eight-point lead to take into the second half.
With the Premier men looking rock solid at the back – 2007 All-Star Declan Fanning had stepped in to replace the injured Paul Curran at full-back – it was going to take a monumental effort for Clare to get back in touch.
But McNamara’s charges did not get the start to the second half they wanted and Tipp pulled further ahead by scoring five of the half’s first six points.
Callinan took his tally to 1-02 with a neat score from the left, McGrath followed suit and Kelly angled over two more points – a free and a well-executed point on the turn.
Toomevara clubman John O’Brien also took his tally to 0-03 as Clare could only muster a Carmody point in response.
Now 1-16 to 0-07 behind, Clare needed to act fast and credit to them, they did gain some decent momentum by flinging over the game’s next seven points.
They made a real game of it as Gerry Quinn, who had been moved successfully to centre-back, and tigerish midfielder Colin Lynch crept over points.
Gilligan hit two scores on the bounce, Lynch conjured up his third of the game and with Tipp beginning to dither on the ball, a brace of quick points from Gilligan and Clancy cut the gap to 1-16 to 0-14 by the 55th-minute.
Suddenly, this final was back in the melting pot and all Clare really needed was a goal. But, ironically, almost in one fell swoop, O’Brien raised a green flag at the opposite end.
The 26-year-old brilliantly plucked a Cummins puck-out out of the sky, turned and set off for goal and with the Clare defence standing off, he rifled a meaty shot past Brennan to stun the Banner faithful.
Their woes were compounded when O’Brien cracked over his fourth point of the encounter for a 2-17 to 0-14 score-line.
Tipp showed no mercy and although Sheedy will have been unhappy that their work-rate dipped in the second period, late points from Callinan, substitute Hugh Maloney, McGrath and Kelly eased his side home.
McGrath had time to throw in a cheeky celebration as he flung over a delightful sideline cut from the left wing.
With Lynch still scrapping for every ball in what was a fascinating midfield battle, Clare admirably kept plugging away. Gilligan provided the bulk of their late scores.
But even a consolation goal eluded them as Tipp stopper Cummins produced two outstanding late saves to deny both substitute Fergal Lynch and Gilligan.
The latter’s effort from a 20-metre free was turned away by a full-length save from Cummins, which had the ‘keeper roaring his approval and the moment just emphasised that Tipp were too good on the day.
Scorers – Tipperary: J O’Brien 1-04, S Callinan 1-03, E Kelly 0-06 (0-02f), S McGrath 0-03, L Corbett 0-02, J Woodlock, P Kerwick, H Maloney 0-01 each. Clare: N Gilligan 0-08 (0-05f), M Flaherty (0-03f), C Lynch 0-03 each, T Carmody 0-02, J Clancy, G Quinn, D McMahon 0-01 each
Tipperary: B Cummins; E Buckley, P Curran, C O’Brien; E Corcoran, C O’Mahony, S Maher; J Woodlock, S McGrath; P Kerwick, S Callinan, J O’Brien; E Kelly (capt), L Corbett, S Butler.
Subs: D Fanning (for Curran 30 mins), M Webster (for Kerwick 49), H Maloney (for Butler 53), B Dunne (for Woodlock 67).
Clare: P Brennan; P Vaughan, F Lohan, G O’Grady; G Quinn, C Plunkett, P Donnellan; B O’Connell (capt), C Lynch; T Carmody, D McMahon, J Clancy; T Griffin, N Gilligan, M Flaherty.
Subs: D O’Rourke (for Flaherty 27 mins), G O’Connell (for Plunkett 40), F Lynch for (O’Rourke 60), B Nugent (for Griffin 63), M Murphy (for McMahon 68).
Referee: Diarmuid Kirwan (Cork).
Taken from rte.ie
