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“Speaking on Racing UK’s Luck on Sunday programme, the trainer said: “We’d be leaning towards the RSA on what you would call normal Festival ground. That would be our preference, but if it came up soft or heavy, maybe we’d start looking at the JLT a little bit more.
“We’ll see what way the ground is nearer the time, but at the moment our preference would be the RSA.””
WE’D BE LEANING TOWARDS THE RSA= THE JLT IS VERY MUCH ON
WE’D BE LOOKING AT THE JLT A LITTLE BIT MORE= WE ARE LOOKING AT THE JLT LOTS ALREADY
WE WILL SEE NEARER THE TIME= EVEN THOUGH I HAVE IMPLIED TO YOU ALL THE RSA IS OUR TARGET WHEN I SWITCH TO JLT LAST MINUTE IRRELEVANT OF THE GROUND YOU CANT SAY I WAS LYING AS I WILL HAVE COME UP WITH A NEW REASON BY THAT TIME FOR GOING JLT. SCARED OF PRESENTING PERCY OR SOME OTHER SUCH RUBBISH.
NO it’s because the people in the industry believe that the truth is being told ref Dounikos.
The people in the industry aren’t buying the claim Monalee runs in the rsa.
Sorry to break this to you the trainers and owners genrerally speaking could not give two hoots about joe public. If they can put the masses away to line their own pockets then time and time again we see they have no qualms in doing so.
I won’t be backing Trafgic fluide as the horse looks to have lost interest in the game.
Dounikos announced as definitely RSA and price collapses with every bookmaker and on betfair.
Monalee announced as definitely(well not strictly speaking) RSA. Bookmakers price does not move, betfair sports book aside.
You do the maths
He was (Allegedly) confirmed (wasn’t confirmed at all if you take note of the words)as RSA as long as the ground isn’t soft on the very same day that Cheltenham clerk of course announced to the world that the ground could be heavy/soft.
Make of that what you will. Playing games is my take on the matter we will see.
I think he runs in the JLT no matter what the ground.
WE will soon find out. I’m still far from
convinced Monalee is going to run in this and still think he is going to the JLT.
Don’t fear this horse in the slightest though so hopefully he will turn up here.Well should the unthinkable happen and elegant escape gets beaten then it can only have been by ballyoptic.
Black corton MAY get 3rd (he may not)
Ballyoptic is the only danger I can see here.
I can assure you that Monalee beating Elegant Escape in the Albert Bartlett last year with EE just 5 years of age bears zero relevance on the outcome of this race. The logic is colpletely flawed.
I find it hilarious you think I’m trolling because I believe GB has the strongest runners in the RSA?
GB look certain to win this race Elegant Escape is the big boy but ballyoptic is the danger horse. Black Corton may hang on for 3rd.
Is the Floggas form even worth the paper it’s written on?
The first 7 home covered by 7 lengths, the horse who controlled the pace from the front comes out on top in a slowly run race. Everyman and his dog seem to think Monalee is a superstar.
I can’t have that.
Form looks average and should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Team GB could easily take all 3 places here.
Coral have cut elegant escape into 10/1 for the RSA this morning.
Single figure odds look imminent.
Who on Earth is backing the tug boat who will surely run in the 4miler??????
The winners of the 4m chase since 2010 have between them had 66 races after the victory in the 4m race.
Those 66 races have produced 2 class 2 hcap wins, 1 grade 3 chase win (4 runner race-2 fallers) and if you really want to count it a winner of the x country chase.
Marathon staying races ruin horses sorry to break it to you guys.
Do they ruin every horse????
No there are always exceptions however the facts show that if you win in the 4miler you will have done well to win another race.
Running well in the 4mile race clearly breaks many a decent horse. Though don’t let the facts get in the way.
Exactly the same with the grand national. There are exceptions red rum for example.
I agree it’s borderline pointless talking about Monalee in the context of this race as there is only one place he is going and that’s the JLT.
Basing the result of a novice chase on a hurdles race from 12 months ago is flawed logic.
The Chase facts are Monalee is officially rated 155
Elegant Escape is officially rated 153That is a 2 lb difference.
Both have potential for improvement over fences though EE has shown the greatest improvement so far for the switch to fences and we haven’t seen his best yet.I see no logic in quoting some hurdles race form from 12 months ago. It bears no relevance to this race.
I fully agree Monalee was the better hurdler that is indisputable it means nothing in the RSA however.
You seem to be stating that Willie Mullins plans are finalised for both horses. They aren’t this is just your opinion it’s not factual.
My theory on small horses being more suited to sharp tracks and big horses being suited to galloping tracks is in fact factual and common sense.
Do I think fences will bring 26 lengths of improvement?
It’s already bought 16lb of improvement so far for the switch to fences and as a young improving horse there is plenty more to come so clearly the answer is yes??
If you fail to see how EE has the beating of BC then I’m umable to help out anymore as I have explained in detail already.
We will see wether I am a mile off or spot on in 12 days time.
I predict the latter and your arguement as to why black Corton will beat elegant escape has not entirely convinced me:
“How does EE “clearly” have the beating of BC he only won last time because the weights lol he would be 0/2 against him”
lol 
Presenting Percy would be more suited to the 4miler and I would think he will go to that race as he look a more a national type than a gold cup horse.
He has ran twice in grade 2 chases and twice got beaten. He has possibly had the worst campaign in history for a crack at the rsa and it will be a surprise if he could even place in this race.Monalee will almost certainly go for the JLT. Even if he turns up in the RSA he has never won a chase over 3 miles, he has fell in 1 of his 3 chase races, all of his career wins came on either soft or heavy ground (close to certain it will be gd-soft at the festival).
I’m more than happy with my 33/1 on EE and can’t see Presenting Percy, Monalee or Black Corton getting anywhere near him should they all turn up in the RSA.
Mares have a bad record in the race and I can’t remember the last one to win the rsa which must be severely offputting for the chances of shattered love and Miss Storm.
Al Boum Photo has never raced in a chase over 3 miles, has fell in 1 of his 3 races and the only time he ran over 3m at hurdles was unplaced 5/8.
Willie Mullins is a great trainer but I’m out and even the great Ruby walsh would rather take his chance on Invitation Only than this one.
Invitation Only has fell this season, has never ran over 3miles fences or hurdles (did run in a pnt to pnt over this trip)
I find it hard to see this horse outstaying elegant escape here and this will be a real stamina test of a race ran at pace.Elegant Escape should be favourite here in my opinion.
Let’s see what happens to this tug boat?? On the day
THe 4 miler will clearly ruin many a good horse as does the national.
Of the last 12 winners of the 4 miler only 1 of the 12 won next time out with 8 of the 12 unplaced.
9 winners returned to the following years festival with 8 getting beat.Horses who run big races in this race more often than not don’t run to the same height again.
Did the race ruin Native river and would he have stood a better chance in last years gold cup had he gone the RSA route the previous year?
Impossible to answer with certainty this question. Though it is certainly possible the horse may have got 2nd or even 1st in the gold cup had he avoided the 4 miler. We can’t be certain but we would be somewhat foolish to say 100% that 4 mile race didn’t take something out of Native rivers future races.
As for I don’t have NRNB and if elegant escape runs in another festival race I lose my money.
This is not true though it is correct it isn’t nrnb as I wrongly stated.
If the horse doesn’t run at the festivalI get a full refund on my bet.
If it runs in a different race I get my money back as a free betWhether I get a free bet or a refund should Tizzard lose his mind and actually run this potential future gold cup winner in the 4 miler then to me it makes no difference as the money will be reinvested somewhere else at the festival.
“How does EE “clearly” have the beating of BC he only won last time because the weights lol he would be 0/2 against him”
He clearly has the beating of Black Corton for a variety of reasons.
EE hated kempton, he is a big galloping horse and clearly didn’t like kemptons sharp track he was the first horse who looked in trouble in the race.
Black Corton no the other hand is a small horse, small horses have an advantage over big gallopers at sharp tracks.You must also factor in the terrible form of colon Tizzard at the time of the race. Following that race up to the end of January Tizzard had 60 runners and just 4 winners with many many short priced horses getting beat.
Tizzard is coming bang into form right on time for the festival.You must also factor in potential improvement.
Black Corton has had 22 career starts (11 chase starts) and has been kept on the go since APril 2017. This is his 13th race in 11 months. He hasn’t been trained or campaigned for the festival and is ending up here by accident as he has done so well (surprising connections). An awful run is imminent and to say a horse who is unbeaten at Cheltenham doesn’t like Cheltenham may well bring me ridicule but I don’t think Cheltenham suits him.EE has had just 11 career races, just 5 over fences and is open to much more improvement than Black Corton. He has been campaigned with Cheltenham in mind and can be confidently expected to produce a career best run at the festival. The track looks made for this staying chaser.
For me it’s clear that elegant escape has the beating of BC at Cheltenham but it’s all about opinions.
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