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  • in reply to: Betfair Chase 2017 #1327860
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    I don’t think sizing John will make the final declarations here.

    In the interview JH gave on Sunday she appears to be preparing the public that this won’t run.

    Harrington said: “It was what Alan [Potts] wanted. He said after Punchestown he’d love to go for the million pound bonus and said to me ‘do you think it’s possible’. I said anything is possible, let’s try and aim him at that and see if it all happens but he understood horses aren’t always right, or get there.”

    This comment says to me that she doesn’t want to run him for the good of the horse but is smart enough to realise there could be some public backlash if she doesn’t follow Potts wishes to go for the bonus. This interview is full of excuses- jokes about the horse needing weight watchers, the ground not being ideal and going to the trouble of telling us Potts would understand.

    I don’t think it’s running personally though we find out soon.

    The interview she gave today suggested it was running but the words in the sunday one is the one that I find intriguing.
    https://www.racinguk.com/news/jessica-harringon-cautious-ahead-of-sizing-john-s-return-in-betfair-chase

    I’m on traffic FLUIDE at 25/1 -3 places and I wouldn’t t swap it for anything. Bristol is undoubtedly the horse to beat here and the only horse I fear from the win point of the bet.
    Outlander is the only other danger to traffic FLUIDE and I’m not certain that will run though it certainly appears to be at this stage.

    in reply to: Betfair Chase 2017 #1327327
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    DOes anybody have any idea if might Bite is likely to run in this race?

    I like traffic fluide here at 25/1 but I want to know if might bite Is likely to run.

    If anybody has any idea please let me know.

    in reply to: Paddy Brennan and Cue Card #1326056
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    There are plenty of worst jumpers than Cue Card I agree, but these horses run in slower paced lower grade races.

    Can you name me a horse who runs in grade 1 chases that you can say you expect them to fall when they race.
    Grade 1 chases are ran at pace and mistakes can hold greater consequences than in the slower lower grade chases. Also a horse like cue card dying on track will be very well publicised and a major negative for the pr of the sport.

    I cannot think of a horse running in these races that I expect to fall Pre race.

    Cue card I expect to fall in the betfair chase. I just hope he survives it and they say enough is enough and show the horse the respect he deserves.

    in reply to: Paddy Brennan and Cue Card #1326041
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    When/if cue card dies on the racecourse which he may well do then the calls to ban nh racing will be immense as the horse is so popular even with non racing types (occasional punters,fans). It will create more emotion and publicity than your average horse death on track. Will be a disaster for racings image.

    Nobody will be able to genuinely say they were surprised this horse died after a fall (hopefully that won’t happen).
    Any horse can die following a fall, unfortunately that’s a part of nh racing. This is the only horse I can think of who I’m expecting to die pre race.
    It’s wrong and when the ban racing protest reaches a record level after his death then I as a nh fan will find it hard to make a counter arguement against the people who want racing banned.

    Hopefully this scenario won’t happen but it’s 50/50 if it will or won’t.

    in reply to: Paddy Brennan and Cue Card #1325890
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    There is nothing wrong with racing an 11/12yo over 3m but when you having an 11/12yo running in races at championship pace and you can genuinely say there is a good chance this horse will fall today then yes it is wrong.

    Any horse can fall at any time that’s racing regardless of age but every time i watch this horse run now at every single fence He jumps in the back of my mind I will be asking “is this the final fence he jumps” and that simply can’t be right.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if in private paddy has said to Tizzard that Cue Card should be retired and Tizzard has not listened and that’s the real reason behind the jockey change.

    in reply to: Paddy Brennan and Cue Card #1325885
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    So first it was the suns fault.

    Then it was paddy Brennan’s fault.

    When will Tizzard just accept this horse is 12 in 6 weeks time and his best days are behind him.

    Keep running him in top class chases is playing roulette with his life all in the pursuit of personal glory that simply won’t happen, they jump at pace in the races he runs In and his timing Is going.If the tents come out on his next fall and the worst happens then I won’t be surprised and that cannot be right.

    Do the right thing and let him live out his life in a field.
    First won at cheltenham festival in 2010 it’s 2018 festival coming. Time to let go.

    It’s as if Tizzard is in total denial that his fav horse is now too old.

    in reply to: Charlie Hall Chase 2017 #1324733
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    VIRILIO looks outstanding value at 20/1. I’m expecting him to win but have backed Ew just in case. Amazing price. :good:

    in reply to: Dewhurst 2017 #1321529
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    I was very surprised to learn that Stoute has had just two 2yo group 1 winners in his entire training career. Surely a great chance of a 3rd one today.

    in reply to: Rockingham 2017 #1321523
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    I’m not overly worried about the trainers form as he isn’t a prolific trainer. His only runner yesterday ran a cracker to be 3rd in the big class 2 handicap at Newmarket yesterday.
    Also daddies girl ran 10 days ago and looked in cracking form.
    She looked to have little chance of catching the leader 1 1/2f out was giving it 21 lb but was very impressive the way she picked up and won going away.

    Tougher oppposition today but I think she deserves a crack at this race and it would be nice to see one of the smaller trainers take on the big boys and win here (not least cos I have money on her ;) ). Rod has never had a 2yo winner at this level before which may put many people off but sometimes in racing David beats Goliath.

    in reply to: Rockingham 2017 #1321459
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    Trends wise:

    All 14 winners had run within the last 28 days (shaababy, dance diva, island drive, Pulitzer and Peggy’s Angel are all negative on that score).

    12 of the 14 winners were foaled in march or later, the first 4 in the betting are all february foals.

    11 of the 14 winners had ran at least 4 times with most winners having ran lots more than just 4 times.

    DADDIES GIRLS ticks a lot of boxes trends wise being a March foal, plenty of experience, ran within the last 28 days and having won 3 races already.

    She has really hit form in her last few races and appears to be progressing and getting better this autumn. This is of course much harder than the class 3 handicaps she won the last twice but has always been highly thought of by Rod Millman and she ran with credit over 5f In a york listed race back in may.

    6f is her trip, the good ground will suit this daughter of ELzaam and she may just cause a surprise in this race.

    I think the 16/1 is a very fair price for this battle hardened runner who comes here as a sprinter in form having won her last two and if she improves again which looks likely then she could be hard to keep out of the placings and if the fav runs flat on this ground then the win becomes plausible here.

    Would be interested in any opinions on this race. Good luck whatever you go with if indeed you have a bet here. :good:

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