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    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    A very small but select field, even at this stage….

    Sizing John
    Bristol De Mai
    Cue Card
    Might Bite
    Outlander
    Tea For Two
    More of That
    Traffic Fluide
    Yala Enki
    Double Treasure
    Shantou Flyer

    These obviously need little to no introduction, and if Sizing John is the same horse this year (he did wobble on Betfair last week) then difficult to see what beats him.

    Bristol De Mai is outstanding round here, while Outlander seems to be in good form as well.

    A year older, and Cue Card has questions to answer, though his win in this last year is hard to forget.

    I’ll go for an Each Way Angle though, and after considering Tea For Two and Double Treasure, I’ll stick with More of That.

    He looked the part in Ireland last year, while his run in The Gold Cup wasn’t too bad either. Not knocked about on Saturday at Down Royal, and though he still puts in the odd howler, I can easily see him making the frame here, and I’ll chance 20’s.

    More of That EW 20’s

    #1325668
    TomBarkley87
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    I think Bristol De Mai wins here and had a little nibble at the 100/1 for the triple crown….just in case.

    #1325669
    Avatar photojoliff
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    Might Bite looks a monster, he’s my idea of the winner.

    #1325670
    FrankieMac
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    Might Bite won’t run will he?

    I can’t see past the top 2 I’m afraid, I think I’ll keep a watching brief and just sit back and enjoy.

    #1325675
    Avatar photojoliff
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    Here’s a quote from Henderson’s recent ATR stable tour…

    He was in the process of clocking a time about five or six second faster than what Thistlecrack took to win the King George and proved himself to be an outstanding novice with victories in the RSA and the Mildmay. I think the King George will be his prime objective in the first half of the season and he might be ready to go for the Betfair Chase beforehand.

    I certainly won’t be betting until the day of the race but if he runs he wins for me.

    #1325686
    FrankieMac
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    I think plans have changed since those comments but can’t remember where I read it. Either way, if you’re not betting til the day it doesn’t matter :good:

    #1325695
    Avatar photoZamorston
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    Cue Card is surely the winner here and the bet of the race! Last bit of 8’s gone and most of the 7’s…

    Just because he fell at Wetherby he shouldn’t be discounted IMO…as long as he’s over the fall health wise…

    He went off shorter and more fancied than BDM at Wetherby yet is twice the price in a race and at a course he’s got an excellent record at! While BDM was fighting out a tough finish Cue Card was picking himself up and maybe that could be a blessing in disguise for this race…he certainly wasn’t out of it and was looking like he’s have played a part in the finish…

    He came on tonnes last year from Wetherby to Haydock and I don’t see any reason why he can’t turn the tables with BDM…

    Sizing John is an obvious and worthy favourite but I’ll readily take him on with Cue Card as Haydock has a habit of making good horses look not so good, but those who act there look like superstars and Cue Card certainly acts there..

    #1325714
    Avatar photoDegaussed
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    If the ground came up very soft, I would be interested in Cue Card. I have a feeling his price might have gone by then, though, and I don’t fancy backing him now with the doubt over the ground. If Outlander ran he would be interesting.

    #1325718
    Avatar photoSteeplechasing
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    Cue Card’s jumping is a big concern these days. Having looked again at the Charlie Hall I’m not sure I buy Brennan’s low sun excuse. They’d already jumped 4 fences down the back all pretty much in the same ‘sun line’ as the one he came down at. Also, the shadows suggest the sun was coming side on mostly, from the infield.

    Any horse can fall, even Cue Card who for so many years had not done so. But it’s the manner of his falls that bother me – all 3 have been absolute eye-shutters where he has piled right into the belly of the fence at chest height – that is not right. It’s rare for a horse to take exactly the same type of fall twice never mind three times, especially one so experienced and scopey as Cue Card. It’s almost as though his concentration has completely deserted him or he cannot see.

    Tizzard has got away with it three times now and I think he should quit and retire the horse. My heart ruling my head perhaps but there’s evidence in those falls that should not be ignored. I don’t know what they mean and I doubt anyone else does but there is something not right.

    #1325724
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    If the ground came up very soft, I would be interested in Cue Card.

    I agree and think Cue Card needs soft in the description these days as does the jockey and trainer.
    TAPK and Ginger have said he is better on quicker.
    What does Cue Card’s super fan Steeplechasing reckon….?

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    #1325725
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    For the race itself I think if Sizing John’s connections fancy going for the bonus they will have him in tip top condition on thereabouts.
    Mite Bite has not won on seasonal debut in 3 attempts, fascinating contender this season, 10/1 current price would say he’s not running.

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    #1325727
    Avatar photoTriptych
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    Bristol De Mai
    All the way
    This lovely grey
    Will make my day :yahoo:

    There’s my new poem of the year Nathan ;-)

    Another year older and he’s already proving to be a different horse to last year. He really seemed to be enjoying himself in the Charlie Hall, his ears were pricked and his jumping was sound apart from one small mistake.
    Hoping that this is the year that he shows us what he is truly capable of. :heart: Jac

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    #1325753
    Avatar photoZamorston
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    Does anyone know any bookies who have priced up the special treble? Might be my other angle in as Sizing John is the most likely winner and be interested to see what odds you can get as he’s the only one with a serious chance of doing the treble…

    #1325754
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Sizing John is 25’s with William Hill. betfred and Stan James
    Bristol de Mai 80’s with Paddy
    Mite Bite 40’s with Stan James and Fred

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    #1325763
    Avatar photoMiddle_Of_March
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    BDM on this track is a big danger to the favourite but it’s too early to play here.

    #1325899
    LostSoldier3
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    Quite a few firms asleep at the wheel here. Almost certain to be less than 8 runners but many still paying 3 places.

    #1325925
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    Sizing John is 25’s with William Hill. betfred and Stan James
    Bristol de Mai 80’s with Paddy
    Mite Bite 40’s with Stan James and Fred

    BDM is quoted at 100’s @ BV for the Triple Crown if anyone fancies him for that

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