[llanrumneyboy]

David,

You should try the "Rocking Horse Winner" film approach. However,
you’ll see some serious whip abuse in that film.

[llanrumneyboy]

A true master of his craft, extremely sad.

Poignantly for me, my Dad passed away on this day 18 years ago, which so happens to be my birthday. So thanks to my Dad for introducing me to the turf back in the 60`s and Sir Henry sustaining my interest ever since I saw Wollow win the Greenham at Newbury.

I will now remember Sir Henry along with my dear old dad on every future birthday.

[llanrumneyboy]

Betlarge,

The Tetrarch, 7 from 7 as a 2 year old. Never
raced again, see:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tetrarch

Part of the Druid`s Lodge syndicate.

Regards,

llanrumneyboy

[llanrumneyboy]

Im my humble opinion the list would be incomplete
without the great, but tragic, Frederick James Archer.

Regards,

Llanrumneyboy

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From memory A Licence To Print Money by Jamie Reid was quite illuminating about Terry Ramsden and similiar characters. Anyway, most definitely a recommended read.

I`m afraid, from what I`ve read over the years, the boy Ramsden unfortunately squeezed his own lemon till the juice runneth out, with all due respect to a Zeppelin early number.

I did see him at a 2000 Guineas meeting a few years ago, but I guess his resurgence hasn`t materialised yet.

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cormack15 wrote:
At the end of the coverage today Thommo was stood behind Alastair Down as Down said a sort of goodbye on his behalf. Thommo gave a small wave in what was quite a strange scene.
I’m sure most viewers would welcome seeing those familiar faces go with a bit more of a proper goodbye/tribute

I caught the dying embers of the programme and found it bizzare and quite sad in equal quantities. I`ve not been one of Thommos`s greatest fans over the years, ambivalent I guess, but he looked lost with a limp-wristed wave towards the camera. And not even a swansong from Mr Down.

Allied with the fact that the Beeb has finally closed the curtains without chance to wave goodbye, Channel 4 will now
cover the Welsh National according to the Sporting Life, the whole thing has gone out like a dampy sqib.

Finally, as previously alluded too on here, a mini-tribute to Lesley Graham when the higher-profile team menbers have been swept under the carpet. All rather peculiar, but, alas no great suprise.

Only time and individual opinion will see if the changes make for a better product.

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It is official now. Brough Scott says so in today’s 16 page Frankel souvenir tribute in the Racing Post. (No emoticons have been used in this posting -take it how you like.)

And I can`t wait for Brough Scott`s biography of Sir Henry, which believe is set for publication around March next year. I`ve got "On the Level", the original biography which was a good read, and so much water under the bridge since. I hope it will not be a too sycophantic tome, but will tell it warts and all. And I`m saying that as an ardent follower of the great man ever since I saw Wollow win the Greenham, and witnessed HRAC, as he was, physically removing one of his travelling lads from the saddling boxes at Newbury for obnoxious behaviour.

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Virtually the entire BBC snooker team is now ex-players, now they have got rid of the excellent, if outspoken, Clive Everton.

Good call from you in my humble opinion. I know it`s going off, or in-off, track but he was the consumate professional. Knew the game inside-out, articulate, not prone to hyperbole unless warranted in exceptional circumstances. Also, he would pull no punches if wanting to throw in a contentious point of view and did have a witty side at the right moments. And for me, called the players by their proper names and not clique nick-names etc., which many do to remind you they are part of the inner-sanctum and you are not.

If there was a Clive Everton`esque figure for racing it would be all the better coverage. Unfortunately, one doesn`t immediately come to mind.

Regards,

Dave

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Pengamon,

I have seen 2 of Frankel`s debut racecards fetching in excess of £600 each on E-bay.

There are some contributory factors to their scarciety. Obviously, at the time it would have been just another mid-week Newmarket meeting, and cards probably discarded, except for the anoraks amongst us who collect them back to the year dot. But to compound matters, I believe, there was a concert afterwards and there was an absolute deluge which probably put paid to a lot of the remaining cards.

Not that this answers your question of course, but throws light onto the value of the first card.

Regards,

Dave

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Joe,

Thank you for sharing your excellent story.

Perhaps you have another one or more to share? I shall
wait with keen anticipation.

Have a good weekend,

Dave

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Chaps,

To throw my hat in the ring I can see both points that the prof and Gingertipster make. However, in my humble opinion, what makes these machines more dangerous is the constant opportunity to get your "buzz", what about every 20 seconds at a guess. Before they came along, as a long-time punter, I`ve seen loads of addicted gamblers on the horse/greyhounds. At least then there is a time to take stock of your situation, although I know, it doesn`t enable everyone to take control.

Therefore, the quick fix nature of these machines is the disturbing element for me, and yes, I did have a period of becoming sucked in myself, but now try and pretend they don`t exist;virtually impossible with the racket they make, which is another issue.

Regards,

Llanrumneyboy

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Also, a new film has just been released, "Outside Bet". See
IMdb link:-

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1772422/

The film to which Hammy refers is "The Rocking Horse Winner".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042898/

It`s quite a dark film, and also there`s some nice old footage of
Goodwood.

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Hi DeadlySins,

EBAY always have many items under their Sports section for
Horse Racing. Many race cards and books but, also miscellaneous items.

Also, some of the bigger auction Houses have sales for the more rare items. I belive Graham Budd auctions are one from memory, and you can view their previous sales catalogues for a taste of what they deal with.

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like others on this thread I have been fortunate enough to have gone racing for the last 40 plus years. I was even at Ascot to see "the Brigadier" win his only 12 furlong race.

However, I personally have never seen a horse as exciting as this beast at the highest level, a statement I thought I would ever make after seeing the sublime Dancing Brave.

Forget the ratings and collateral form, which I know are extremely important. But, sometimes you have to just believe the visuals and be thankful that a true superstar comes along, and be so grateful that you were fortunate to witness it. It’s not just one memorable performance, but a handful.

I truly hope he remains sound and enjoys a fruitful stud duty upon his retirement, and anticipate each follow-up race with the greatest of relish.

Also excellent shots at the start of the Guineas.

[llanrumneyboy]

Also, the whole experience enhanced by the sublime commentary of Peter O’Sullivan.

[llanrumneyboy]

Mr.Wilson wrote:I go to bed dreaming of frankel in my silks

Mr Wilson,

I hope you didn’t have a nocturnal pollution and
damaged your silks.

[llanrumneyboy]

Only the most cynical would fail to be impressed. Amazing accelartion, albeit off a muddling pace.

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