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- October 20, 2012 at 14:17 #22863
What a disaster he is. Facts wrong, and simple facts at that, all the time. Faltering, unable to pronounce words correctly, talking nonsense to fill in time and bad grammar, just as well he’s off the screen as from today. How he lasted so long I will never know.
October 20, 2012 at 14:23 #417562Agreed.
October 20, 2012 at 14:52 #417570Fantastic jockey, but his incoherent babbling makes me squirm
October 20, 2012 at 14:56 #417572How he lasted so long I will never know.
His sheer ineptitude made Claire Balding look utterly fantastic by contrast. One can see why she’d have him stay on for as long as he did. That and sentimentality/laziness goes a long way in certain circles.
October 20, 2012 at 15:52 #417581I am not a great fan of Carson the presenter but I quite liked the silly Scot today. Yes, he gets things wrong and it’s cringeworthy at times; but I’d like to see some other presenters with his enthusiasm.
Value Is EverythingOctober 20, 2012 at 16:34 #417586I found his explanation of why mares/fillies tend to sweat up more at this time of year interesting. Also his explanation of why Frankel might struggle because of the ground conditions were proved to be right after Frankel started slowly. A couple of years ago he said that Rewilding would be a much better horse the following year [he was] and was the only presenter I can think of that wasn’t eulogising about Carlton House when he ran in the Derby. I don’t know everything there is to know about horses and he often talks a lot of sense and I learn from what he says. Of course, Julian Wilson was always grammatically correct but of the two I know which one I’d rather listen to.
October 20, 2012 at 17:16 #417591The trouble with the BBC is that they are obsessed (in all sports) with the opinions of past professionals.
Most sportsmen are by definition not exactly Edward de Bono and this is exacerbated by limited presentation skills – hence the occurrence of
Scudamore Syndrome
as it’s now officially known.*
At one stage this afternoon, Mick Fitzgerald gave his Frankel opinion (accompanied by the caption ‘1996 Grand National Winner’) then we had Willie Carson screeching at Rishi Persad before John Parrott began interviewing Dave Yeates. This is the sort of scenario that sends people rushing to their therapists.
Still, soon be over.
Mike
*I made that bit up.
October 20, 2012 at 17:32 #417595I love Willie Carson, he’s such a great personality and wish him all the best in the future.
Great performance by him and Clare Balding today, I am going to miss those two!
October 20, 2012 at 18:27 #417602I like him. Yes he can blunder through an afternoon but his race riding experience is second to none and when the focus is on this area he can excel.
However BBC were more than happy to have him play the Court Jester in comparison to the civilised Clare Balding. A decent double act for the non racing fan who came across the sport on the BBC.
October 20, 2012 at 18:49 #417605I’d not a huge fan of Willie but would rather see him continue his role on Channel 4 than certain other people.
By the way did Claire Balding say anything about today being the BBC’s last ever coverage of flat racing?
October 20, 2012 at 22:29 #417642The trouble with the BBC is that they are obsessed (in all sports) with the opinions of past professionals.
Most sportsmen are by definition not exactly Edward de Bono and this is exacerbated by limited presentation skills – hence the occurrence of
Scudamore Syndrome
as it’s now officially known.*
At one stage this afternoon, Mick Fitzgerald gave his Frankel opinion (accompanied by the caption ‘1996 Grand National Winner’) then we had Willie Carson screeching at Rishi Persad before John Parrott began interviewing Dave Yeates. This is the sort of scenario that sends people rushing to their therapists.
Still, soon be over.
Mike
I wouldn’t bank on it, the bloke responsible for BBC racing will be in charge of C4’s output.
October 21, 2012 at 20:37 #417765He was as bad as ever for the last show……..doesn’t seem to have learnt very much in all the years he’s been doing it and even managed to spoil Claire’s final link to the closing titles…….he must be pinching himself for his good fortune in getting away with below standard incompetence in broadcasting for so long…….his only saving grace is that he was always modest when the subject of his great achievements as a jockey were mentioned.
October 21, 2012 at 20:46 #417767In fairness to Willie Carson, presenting is not and never will be his forte. He does come across much better on a one to one interview situation – where he is being interviewed – and is very, very knowledgeable on all things horse racing.
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October 21, 2012 at 21:09 #417769The BBC is renowned for its loyalty to employees (J Savile, anybody?) but Mr Carson should have been given some training years ago or had his contract terminated.
Yes he was an excellent jockey and of course he is very knowledgeable, but he never learned the value of well-timed silence.
The Muppet Show would have been a much more suitable stage for his brand of ‘humour’.
October 22, 2012 at 05:13 #417796but Mr Carson should have been given some training years ago or had his contract terminated.
What and have a show like Channel 4? no thanks.
October 22, 2012 at 08:24 #417801What and have a show like Channel 4? no thanks.
C4’s racing coverage is better than the BBC’s imo and I will not lament the fact Carson is no longer stood on his soap box waffling on.
October 22, 2012 at 15:15 #417849Channel 4 racing would fit in most living rooms on a Saturday afternoon 1970, there’s no denying that.
As a possible medium for making the sport more attractable it falls way short of the levels expected and in general it makes me sad to think this is the best we can come up with.
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