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007canfordcliffs
Bambino Fever 11.1
Brighterdaysahead 130.58
Heart Wood 73.5
Heldam
Koktail Divin 44.75
No Drama This End 83.9
Pic d’orhy 12
The Big Westerner 16.38
The Jukebox Man 79.73
Wodhooh 70.58
522.52All Jeff
Ballyburn 12
Champ Kiely
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 12
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Jonbon 107.45
Lossiemouth 142.27
Nick Rockett
The New Lion 40.25
599.31Autumnal
Banbridge 12
Fact To File 55.5
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Galopin Des Champs
Hewick
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Impaire Et Passe 21.45
Majborough 28
Quai De Bourbon
State Man
346.79BigG
Ballyburn 12
Final Demand 12
Inothewayurthinkin
Jagwar
Kopek Des Borders 23.23
Lossiemouth 142.27
Mambonumberfive
Marine National
Mydaddypaddy 24.7
Salvator Mundi 11.15
***Out*** Soomaroy 11.91
237.26Buckers
Ballyburn 12
Fact To File 55.5
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Haiti Couleurs 79.34
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Jonbon 107.45
Lossiemouth 64.4
Pic D’Ohry 12
Myretown
The New Lion 12
572.53Coops72
Ballyburn 12
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 49.63
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Grey Dawning 107.91
Iroko 12
Marine Nationale
Myretown
The Jukebox Man 79.73
The New Lion 40.25
***Out Sir Gino*** 26.58
477.38Cormack15
Dinoblue 56.76
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Impaire Et Passe 21.45
Inothewayurthinkin
Jonbon 107.45
Kopek Des Bordes 12
Lossiemouth 142.27
Old Park Star 27.88
Marine Nationale
Teahupoo 55.5
516.69Dactylographer
Affordale Fury
Anzadam
Brighterdaysahead 130.58
Final Demand 49.63
Kargese 71.91
Lulamba 64.17
Marine Nationale
Myretown
The New Lion 40.25
Wendigo 39.7
***Out Kopek Des Bordes*** 11.23
407.47Eezer
Constitution Hill
Fact To File 55.5
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Galopin Des Champs
Hewick
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Inothewayurthinkin
Lossiemouth 142.27
Marine Nationale
Nemean Lion
Out***Kopek Des Bordes*** 11.23
438.84EP1987
Ballyburn 12
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 12
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Grey Dawning 51.91
Honesty Policy
Lossiemouth 142.27
Lulamba 64.17
Inothewayurthinkin
Majborough 28
***Out Sir Gino*** 26.58
541.81Euroalien
Anzadam
Bambino Fever 11.1
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 49.63
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Lossiemouth 142.27
Love Me Tender
Ma Shantou
Marine Nationale
Romeo Coolio 26.45
***Out Kopek des Bordes 11.23
432.64Flyers Nap
Bioluminescence
Caballero Cliff 14.4
Captain Cody
Dalston Lad 28.5
Kim Roque
Kopek Des Bordes 23.23
Lisnamult Lad
Maasai Mara
Moneygarrow
Waterford Whispers
***Out Fasol 31.67
97.8GDC
Fact To File 55.5
Golden Ace 55.1
Jagwar
Jonbon 107.45
Kopek Des Bordes 23.23
Lossiemouth 142.27
Marine Nationale
Teahupoo
The Jukebox Man
The New Lion 40.25
423.8Gladiateur
Anzadam
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Galopin Des Champs
Grey Dawning 107.91
Haiti Couleurs 79.34
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Jagwar
Jimmy Du Seuil 12.88
Lossiemouth 64.4
Myretown
484.37Goodfellow
Brighterdaysahead 130.58
Fact to File 55.5
Final Demand 12
Haiti Couleurs 79.34
Jonbon 107.45
Lossiemouth 142.27
Lulamda 64.17
Marine National
Spillanes Tower 53.75
The New Lion 40.25
685.31Greenasgrass
Blizzard of Oz 13.25
Champ Kiely
Fact to File 55.5
Final Demand 49.63
Gameofinches
Handstands
Impaire et Passe 21.45
Jonbon 107.45
Lossiemouth 142.27
State Man
389.55Grey Desire
Brighterdaysahead 130.58
Digman
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 12
Grey Dawning 107.91
Lossiemouth 142.27
Mossy Fen Road
Oh Betty 33
Starzand
The Jukebox Man 79.73
560.99He Didn’t Like Ground
Fact to File 55.5
Haiti Coleurs 79.34
Iknowhatyurhinkin
Il Etat Temps 136.46
Lecky Watson
Lossiemouth 142.27
Marine Nationals
Myretown
The New Lion 40.25
Three card brag 12
465.82Homersimpson
Dinoblue 56.76
Doctor Blue 17.29
Golden Ace 55.1
Green Hint
Green Splendour
Grey Dawning 107.91
Haiti Couleurs 79.34
Resplendent Grey 20.5
Teddy Blue 64.5
The Yellow Clay
401.4Hot Fuss
Anzadam
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 49.63
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Galopin Des Champs
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Kopec Des Bordes 23.23
Lossiemouth 64.4
Majbourough 28
Marine National
***OutThe New Lion*** 28.25
478.85Illavim
Anzadam
Final Demand 49.63
French Ship 18.75
Haiti Couleurs 79.34
Lecky Watson
Ma Shantou
Marine Nationale
Romeo Coolio 26.45
Spindleberry 43.6
Wodooh 70.58
288.35Inthestream
Fastorslow
Final Demand 49.63
Haiti Couleurs 26.84
Heart Wood 73.5
Kopek des Bordes 23.23
Marine Nationale
Ma Shantou
Myretown
The Big Westerner 16.38
The New Lion 40.25
229.83John Gooch
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 49.63
Haiti Couleurs 79.34
Kopeck des Bordes 23.23
Lulamba 64.17
Ma Shantou
Majborough 28
Marine National
No Drama This End
The New Lion 40.25
340.12Kendicate
Final Demand 49.63
Gibbs Island
Ill Est Francias
Inothewayurthinkin
King Rasko Grey 37
Noble Birth
Perceval Legallois
Savante 11.8
Solness 46
The New Lion 40.25
184.68Kris
El Fabiolo 13.29
Fact To File 55.5
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Galopin Des Champs
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Impaire Et Passe 21.45
Jonbon 107.45
Lossiemouth 142.27
Pic D’ohry 12
Teahupoo
581.8Landafar
Diva Luna 34
Final Demand 49.63
Inothewayurthinking
Jonbon 107.45
Lossimouth 142.27
Lulamba 64.17
Marine Nationale
Teahupoo
The New Lion 40.25
The Reverend 11.37
449.14Lemons68
Fact To File 55.5
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Galopin Des Champs
Haiti Couleurs 79.34
Honesty Policy
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Jango Baie 92.25
Lossiemouth 142.27
Teahupoo
The New Lion 40.25
639.45MarkTT
Brighterdaysahead 130.58
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 12
Gaelic Warrior 65.75
Honesty Policy
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Jango Baie 92.25
Kalypso’chance 19
Lossiemouth 142.27
The Jukebox Man 79.73
733.54Marlingford
Ballyburn 12
Fact To File 55.5
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Haiti Couleurs 26.84
Inothewayurthinkin
Jonbon 107.45
Lossiemouth 142.27
Majborough 28
Marine Nationale
Myretown
***OutIl Etait Temps 82.96
548.4Mickeyjp
Fact to file 55.5
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Inothewayurthinkin
Kopek des bordes 23.23
Lossiemouth 142.27
Marine Nationale
Myretown
Solness 46
State man
The new lion 40.25
400.63Mike2084
Ballyburn 12
Brighterdaysahead 130.58
Final Demand 12
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Heron in the Park 13.13
Jonbon 107.45
Lossiemouth 142.27
Romeo Coolio 26.45
Ruby Grace
Spanish Harlem
537.26Mike007
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 49.63
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Galopin Des Champs
Honesty Policy
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Inothewayurthinkin
Kopek Des Bordes 23.23
Lossiemouth 142.27
Marine Nationale
***OutGrey Dawning 51.91
552.38Nathan Hughes
Anzadam
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 49.63
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Galopin Des Champs
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Kopek Des Bordes 23.23
Lossiemouth 142.27
Lulamba 64.17
The New Lion 40.25
604.89Peejayuk
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 49.63
Galopin Des Champs
Grey Dawning 107.91
Il Est Francais
Jonbon 107.45
Kopek Des Bordes 23.23
Lossiemouth 142.27
Romeo Coolio 26.45
Teahupoo
512.44PeterH
Alnilam
Ambiente Friendly 11.8
Derryhassen Paddy
Mydaddypaddy 24.7
Myretown
Rocky’s Diamond
Romeo Coolio 26.45
The New Lion 40.25
Windbeneathmywings
Wodhooh 26.84
130.04Red Rum 77
Final Demand 12
Gidleigh Park
Heart Wood 73.5
Hiddenvalley Lake
Honesty Policy
Inothewayurthinkin
L’Eau Du Sud
Romeo Coolio 79.53
The Yellow Clay
William Munny
165.03Refuse to Bend
Grey Dawning 107.91
Hello Neighbour
Jonbon 107.45
Kingston Queen 43
Marine Nationale
Nurse Susan 41.25
Steel Ally 26.91
The Jukebox Man 79.73
The New Lion 40.25
The Yellow Clay
(out)Sir Gino 26.58
473.08Rob North
Chasingouttheblues 48.29
Double Digits 13.4
Hombre De Guerra
Jupiter Des Mottes 12.5
Milcree 13.13
Myretown
Saracen Beau 13.5
Star Of Guiting 45.3
Stride On 15.5
Sunset Hill
161.62SamD
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 49.63
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Galopin Des Champs
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Kopek Des Bordes 23.23
Lossiemouth 142.27
Marine Nationale
Romeo Coolio 26.45
The New Lion 40.25
567.17Steve75
Brighterdaysahead 130.58
Final Demand 49.63
Hallelujah U
In my Teens
Love Me Tender
No Drama This End
Panic Attack
Romeo Coolio 79.53
Sortudo 11.54
Windbeneathmywings
271.28TakeYourTime
Believitanducan 17.5
Cool Customer 13
Gamesters Guy 13.13
Gidge
Klub De Reve 29.5
Kritpticjim 68.2
Laganhill
Relieved of Duties
Saracen Beau 13.5
Upon Tweed 22.83
177.66Ten2Fan
Fact To File 55.5
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Haiti Couleurs 79.34
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Irancy
Kopek Des Bordes 23.23
Lossiemouth 142.27
Myretown
Teahupoo
The New Lion 12
542.18The Antepost King
Ballyburn 12
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 49.63
Galopin Des Champs
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Kopek Des Bordes 23.23
Lossiemouth 64.4
Lulamba 64.17
Majborough 28
The New Lion 40.25
***Out Sir Gino 26.58
500.22Thehorsesmouth
Bambino Fever 11.1
Brighterdaysahead 130.58
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 49.63
Kopek Des Bordes 23.23
Lecky Watson
Nick Rockett
Quai De Bourbon
The New Lion 40.25
Wodhooh 70.58
380.87Tonge
Ballyburn 12
Dinoblue 56.76
Fact to File 55.5
Found A Fifty 52.5
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Jagwar
Majborough 28
Spillanes Tower
The Changing Man
Three Card Brag 12
353.22Triptych
Bad
Grey Dawning 107.91
Hyland
Il Etait Temps 136.46
King Turgeon
Kitzbuhel 64.8
L’Eau du Sud 29.34
Lossiemouth 142.27
No Drama This End
Resplendent Grey 20.5
501.28Venture to Cognac
A Penny A Hundred
Appreciate It 22
Dedicated Hero 50.75
Doddiethegreat
Iroko 35
Libberty Hunter 12
Mister Policeman
Panic Attack 140.25
Shanbally Kid
Val Dancer
260Waroftheroses
Fact To File 55.5
Final Demand 49.63
Gaelic Warrior 93.38
Golden Ace 55.1
Grangeclare West 19.5
I Am Maximus 55.5
Il Etait Temps 136.46
Impaire Et Passe 21.45
Lossiemouth 142.27
The New Lion 12
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Affordale Fury
Alnilam
Ambiente Friendly
Anzadam 6
Appreciate It
Bad
Ballyburn 8
Bambino Fever 3
Banbridge
Believeitanducan
Bioluminescence
Blizzard of Oz
Brighterdaysahead 8
Caballero Cliff
Captain Cody
Champ Kiely 2
Chasingouttheblues
Constitution Hill
Cool Customer
Dalston Lad
Dedicated Hero
Derryhassen Paddy
Digman
Dinoblue 3
Diva Luna
Doctor Blue
Double Digits
El Fabiolo
Fact To File 28
Fastorslow
Final Demand 26
Found A Fifty
French Ship
Gaelic Warrior 20
Galopin Des Champs 11
Gameofinches
Gamesters Guy
Georges Saint
Gibbs Island
Gidge
Gidleigh Park
Golden Ace 3
Grangeclare West
Green Hint
Green Splendour
Grey Dawning 8
Haiti Couleurs 11
Hallelujah U
Handstands
Heart Wood 3
Heldam
Hello Neighbour
Heron In The Park
Hewick 2
Honesty Policy 5
Hiddenvalley Lake
Hombre De Guerra
Hyland
I Am Maximus
Il Est Francais 2
Il Etait Temps 19
Impaire Et Passe 4
In My Teens
Inothewayurthinkin 11
Irancy
Iroko 2
Jango Baie 2
Jagwar 4
Jimmy Du Seuil
Jonbon 12
Jupiter Des Mottes
Kalypso’chance
Kargese
Kim Roque
Kingston Queen
King Rasko Grey
King Turgeon
Kitzbuhel
Klub De Reve
Koktail Divin
Kopek Des Bordes 16
Kripticjim
Laganhill
L’Eau Du Sud 2
Lecky Watson 3
Libberty Hunter
Lisnamult Lad
Lossiemouth 29
Love Me Tender 2
Lulamba 7
Ma Shantou 4
Maasai Mara
Majborough 7
Mambonumberfive
Marine Nationale 19
Midnight Our Fred
Milcree
Mister Policeman
Moneygarrow
Mossy Fen Road
Mydaddypaddy 2
Myretown 11
Nemean Lion
Nick Rockett 2
Noble Birth
No Drama This End 4
Nurse Susan
Oh Betty
Old Park Star
Panic Attack 2
Perceval Legallois
Pic D’Ohry 3
Quai De Bourbon 2
Relieved of Duties
Resplendent Grey 2
Rocky’s Diamond
Romeo Coolio 8
Ruby Grace
Salvator Mundi 2
Saracen Beau 2
Savante
Sortudo
Spanish Harlem
Spillanes Tower 2
Spindleberry
Solness 2
Star of Guiting
Starzand
State Man 3
Steel Ally
Stride On
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Teahupoo 7
Teddy Blue
The Big Westerner 2
The Changing Man
The Jukebox Man 6
The New Lion 21
The Reverend
The Yellow Clay 3
Three Card Brag 2
Upon Tweed
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Waterford Whispers
Wendigo
William Munny
Windbeneathmywings 2
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Three Card Brag 12Time for Francome to go?
I didnt hear his "analysis" of Mannings ride on Saturday, but yet again it sounds as if it was the usual industry insider’s, rank closing, punter sneering drivel
And we knew exactly what his opinion would be…
Not only that, we seem to be subjected more and more to childish rants about "townies" stabbing each other all day long. Stuff that might appeal to his studio clique but is to put it mildly, pretty tiresome
Maybe i just catch this stuff on the increasingly rare occasions that i watch C4, (RUK is a godsend) but is there any place for a presenter who so clearly despises 95% of his audience?
I like Francome as a person I think he’s great but I’ve never known anyone talk such barmy nonsense as he often does. From a seven times champion jockey you’d expect a lot more sense, some of the things he comes out with are so obviously innacurate that its actually cringeworthy.
I’m never quite sure if Francome talks a load of bull because he believes it or is he just trying to be controversial. Usually Jim McGrath and Alastair Down will close ranks but on Saturday Jim actually disagreed with him over Manning’s ride.
I don’t think Channel 4’s coverage will suffer if they reduced Francome’s appearances in the same way as Big Mac’s.
Haven’t watched the Morning Line for a few years now but it always struck me that "The World’s Greatest Jockey" was arrogant and lazy.
Assuming that he knew all that was to know about racing and that he didn’t need to do any homework as his ‘charm’ would get him through.
Colin
I like Francombe and while I do disagree with him on sometimes and he couldn’t tip rubbish he is entitled to his opinion. He made a fair point about Lush Lashes not showing much of a turn of foot when first asked but on the other hand as Lester said you need to be on the outside if coming from behind at Goodwood and if she had been she would have won that race.
He can talk some rubbish at times when he ventures outwith racing but I listen carefully to what he has to say – when he is negative (which admittedly isn’t all that often) about a horse he is almost invariably correct.
"I don’t think Channel 4’s coverage will suffer if they reduced Francome’s appearances in the same way as Big Mac’s."
I like Francome as an person. He is entertaining, independent and no great respector of authority- I remember him referring to stewards at one of the west country gaff tracks while riding as "cabbage patch kids".
He has/had his side lines like his building projects, fish and chip shop and books.He would make a good dinner guest.
Some of this comes across as a pundit in his relaxed Swindon burr style.He does give an impression that he can’t really be bothered to study form in detail but this may not be fair.I agree that he gives few negatives but that is invariably correct when he does.
Thought his analysis of the ride that Hughes gave River Proud on Saturday was insightful and not immediately apparent to people like me who have never race ridden.
He gave qualified defence to Manning but that has been well debated on other threads.
There are lots of less talented presenters on C4 who deserve removing ahead of himFrancome is the Dylan Moran of racing punditry and I love him….he makes me laugh as much as John McEnroe does when commentating on the tennis…and I still remember when he touched my arm when saying ‘excuse me’ by the pre parade ring at Cheltenham [swoon]. Perhaps as an ex jockey he is quick to come to the defence of his ex colleagues, because it annoys him when people who know nothing about horses and how difficult it is to ride them critiscize them….his tipping seems pretty useless, but I’d rather listen to his analysis of a race than most other people’s. He also sees the horses side of a race, because as a jockey he always looked after his mounts at the same time being totally unsentimental about them.
Really?
Punters arent entitled to an opinion?
In which other sport are TV presenters so contemptuous (and would include Plunkett here too) of their audience?
Does a cricket pundit dismiss any criticism of a bad shot on the basis that the viewer "doesnt play the game"? Does Alan Hanson routinely defend all defenders mistakes beacuse the MOTD audience "are too busy stabbing each other to paly football" (or words to that effect)?
Personally, I think if they got rid of Big Mac and Francome they would almost instantly become a team devoid of character..
McGrath – Um, nice bloke?
Holt – Um, do you really need to put the favourite up as your course pick nearly every frickin time?! Good commentator but hardly sets the world alight with his analysis..
Graham – Don’t get me started
Down – His rye wit can be funny at times but his new wo is me, I don;t drink anymore routine is becoming tiresome.Luck, Tanya and Plunkett I can get on with and are good at their jobs.
Maybe they should get rid of Big Mac and Francome and bring in Bartlett and Loughran from the BBC?!!! That would really spice it up!!!
At least Francome remains down to earth. To be honest I would think he’s been exactly the same since way before he ever commentated but i’m not old enough to have seen him in his days as a jockey. IMO it would be a huge mistake getting rid of him.
I’ve always had a lot of time for Francome. I used to laugh everytime I heard him have a go at Big Mac saying he was a fruit and nut case.
The truth is there has never been a crazier jockey graced the turf than Francome himself.
Apparantly he was a complete headcase when he was ridng getting up to all sorts of fun and frolics in the weighing room.
He spent half his time working out ways of winding up or having a go at the stewards on every occasion he could.
His reference to cabbage patch dolls comes from the fact he thought they were a bunch of stuck up twats who absolutely dick all about race riding and he let them known it.
He sometimes gives the impression he regards himself above others but that’s just his way. He doesn’t suffer fools gladly and if he thinks someone is talking dribble he thinks nothing of telling them.
Nothing wrong with that IMO and wouldn’t he do well on this forum?
In which other sport are TV presenters so contemptuous (and would include Plunkett here too) of their audience?
Does a cricket pundit dismiss any criticism of a bad shot on the basis that the viewer "doesnt play the game"? Does Alan Hanson routinely defend all defenders mistakes beacuse the MOTD audience "are too busy stabbing each other to paly football" (or words to that effect)?
Completely agree, Clivex. Listening to Alec Stewart, Jonathan Agnew and Vic Marks replying to listener’s phone calls and emails during the Third Test was a great example. They gave their opinion, disagreed where they felt appropriate but treated the callers with respect. None of them felt the need to point out that they had played Test cricket nor to suggest that anyone who hadn’t didn’t know what they were talking about.
In which other sport are TV presenters so contemptuous (and would include Plunkett here too) of their audience?
Does a cricket pundit dismiss any criticism of a bad shot on the basis that the viewer "doesnt play the game"? Does Alan Hanson routinely defend all defenders mistakes beacuse the MOTD audience "are too busy stabbing each other to paly football" (or words to that effect)?
Completely agree, Clivex. Listening to Alec Stewart, Jonathan Agnew and Vic Marks replying to listener’s phone calls and emails during the Third Test was a great example. They gave their opinion, disagreed where they felt appropriate but treated the callers with respect. None of them felt the need to point out that they had played Test cricket nor to suggest that anyone who hadn’t didn’t know what they were talking about.
Spot on.
Spot on indeed. I felt like throwing the TV out the window the day McCoy had a go at Lydia Hislop for daring to question him simply because she had not ridden the winners he had!
Completely agree, Clivex. Listening to Alec Stewart, Jonathan Agnew and Vic Marks replying to listener’s phone calls and emails during the Third Test was a great example. They gave their opinion, disagreed where they felt appropriate but treated the callers with respect. None of them felt the need to point out that they had played Test cricket nor to suggest that anyone who hadn’t didn’t know what they were talking about.
Seconded.
gc
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Unfortunately racing is like that.
If you have never ridden or had anything to do with a horse you are not supposed to make comments about jockeys as it may affect their livelyhoods.
However if I make a howler at work that cost hundreds or thousands of pounds I would be on a warning or possibly lose my job.
Nobody would defend me and make excuses.
More pundits should say what they think as oppose to pander to jockeys.
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