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On the basis that he didn’t really give his best running at the Breeders Cup over 10f (admitedly on sand)..I’d be happy to see him over a mile on fast ground personally.
Hi Tom…thanks for answering our questions…I’m a small time breeder; fairly new to the bloodstock game in fact.
I’d be grateful if you could share your thoughts on the buying of horses. What do you look for ? (flat yearlings and stores)…Pedigree ? confirmation ? action ? size ?.the sire perhaps ? What do you like to see in a prospective purchase and what puts you off ? Who are your favourite sires from both codes ?
I just wanted to say that even though you don’t train him any more, Europa has been a favourite horse of ours for years. I was at Doncaster when he won his first bumper without coming out of first gear; he’s been a great horse over the years.
<br>Black Sam Bellamy,<br>The most difficult thing is where to start?<br>By that I mean you have to start with the catalogue otherwise you wouldn’t know what was at the sale, but you have to bare strongly in mind that it is the individual that you are buying not the pedigree. Having said that if you only buy "good sorts" you need "enough" pedigree because "nothing comes from nothing"! Also the mare can breed a good horse to an sire with an indifferent record because she is "carrying" it.<br> <br>Therefore at a sale I start and try to look at nearly every horse at a sale, weeding out the poor individuals and the "poor" pedigrees, obtain a short list of individuals, then "value" them on how strong or close up the pedigree is.<br> <br>I don’t know whether what I am saying makes any sense to you but it has taken me all my life to get to this point and I am still learning!<br> <br>What I look for in the individual is a good bold outlook, combined with athletic strength. But it does come well disguised sometime!<br> <br>Buying the young horses is definitely more than half the job of getting good class winners. So its worth the effort.<br> <br>Its important to know the sire lines and what their particular strengths are. Nobody knows these better than John Magnier. Some lines are tough, some talented but s**t
ty, some jump well, and there are some very disappointing top class racehorse as sires. There are very, very few good sires that can raise a mares game. For example the Aga Khan’s mares are so good that most of them would breed good winners to a donkey!<br> <br>Europa was an extremely talented young horse. A big powerful and fast galloper. But his hind joints had poor cartilage quality and they let him down when jumping. Otherwise he would have been a top class chaser. Great pity.Has GW been confirmed as being medically unable to fullifill the duties of a stallion ?..or is it more down to his immaturity ?
If he performs well as a 4YO..could George’s stud value be enhanced ?
Wetherby is a nice setting but there’s something not quite right about running the Lancashire chase in West Yorkshire…
Incidentally, does anyone know if the Racing Post is doing their Racehorses of 2006 Flat Annual ?
Incidentally, does anyone know if the Racing Post is doing their Racehorses of 2006 Flat Annual ?
I fancy Somnus who has won a Group One over seven furlongs there previously and would definately enter the calculations if ground was soft or heavy. It’s raining in Paris at present. He looked to be returning to some form last time when two lengths behind Goodricke at Haydock on good ground; quicker than ideal.
Toupie has finished in front of Coupe De Champe this season and with the trip expected to suit, I think he’s got an outside chance.<br>
I’ve joined the thread late so this might be meaningless but they haven’t got to the bottom of Well Chief yet over fences and Pipe may have written him off in his RP stable tour but they’re delighted with his progress at Pond House. Classic MCP putting punters away. No bold predictions but he’ll shock a few.
The Tingle Creek will be a classic if all the main protagonists make it in one piece.
I was at Donny last week and although it’s no York I didn’t think it was that bad. The main stand needs re-building with something more modern though. (I think plans are afoot)
I’d also like to nominate Chepstow which I’ve visited a few times now and never really enjoyed.
It seems that there’s a definate southern bias in this thread and I wonder how many people have actually been to the likes of Catterick, Ripon or Beverley. Let me add my northern weight behind Folkestone and Nottingham to try and even up the stakes.<br>:biggrin:
I would regard myself as pro-exchanges and the point I was trying to make is that some of your posts are almost ‘tabloid-like’ in their slanted predictability but I’m not surprised at this given your attempts to get backandlay off the ground.
You said earlier in this thread that ‘I just don’t buy this notion that exchanges increase the ”corruption opportunity” as the OFT might label it.’…do you truly believe this ? Where else would a farrier be able to lay horses on the all weather ? The recent scenario with Alan Berry’s farrier laying horses to win 100k couldn’t have occured pre-exchanges, especially for the sums of money involved.
Ian, do you actually view horse racing as a sport or merely a vehicle for backandlay to maximise profit from ?…the fewer regulations the better. The exchanges have potentially exposed horse racing to levels of corruption not witnessed before and in my view any attempts to close this exposure should be welcomed or at least discussed constructively; even those from Peter Savill !!
Ian, as much as I enjoy reading your posts lets face it; you’re looking to make a living from the online betting exchanges and as such your responses to even the merest soundbite from Peter Savill or any other perceived anti-exchages individual is now completely predictable.
It’s as though you’re trying to indoctrinate the members of this forum with pro-exchange paraphernalia every time you post.
…and why do you give Redman – who I don’t know, such a hard time (and on such a personal level too) ?
I think Bolton to be relegated at 15/8 is a better bet, especially if you see Leicester staying up…
I know it ended in tragedy but the Nigel Benn, Gerald McClellan slugfest was a classic fight as both men gave and took some tremendous shots
I have the uttmost respect for any person who is willing to live the life of a jockey.
It’s completely un-natural for human beings to weigh the weights that jockeys weigh (particularly flat ones). It must be both physically and mentally draining. I weigh 11 stone 10 pounds and if I don’t have a good lunch then I don’t feel that great by night-time; imagine what it’s like for someone who weighs eight stone or less – it must be torture.
Jockeys also put their lives on the line, particuarly the less successful ones who have to ride horses that are completely unreliable to make ends meet.
I don’t think therefore it’s justified to criticise jockeys. Nobody forces a jockey to do what he does but despite the money available it’s not a job which would interest me!!
I think the most amusing thing about the programme was that Jimmy Fitzgerald and Gay Kellaway should be allowed to have no lose accounts. Was Victor Chandler expecting these two to have a welter of winners or something ? Kellaway has only had 76 winners in the past five years…
I do think though that the time has come for Graham Bradley to be warned off for good from Horse Racing. The guy is a plain crook. I mean he admits under oath at Wright’s trial that he accepted money for ‘advise’ but then denies it during Panorama and then issues a statement denying it again in the press yesterday. Did he lie in court then ?
His autobiography should also be pulped as it’s been exposed as nothing but a collection of barely believable fables and excuses (I regret buying it now).
The thing that really gets my back up though is people coming on this board, from the ‘old school’ trotting out the ‘it’s nothing new…we’ve always known racing is a bit bent’ rubbish as if that’s an excuse for some people’s behaviour. However unfocussed Panorama and Kenyon Confronts have been it once again shows racing in a very poor light. <br>There’s no point in the racing industry taking out adverts in the national press portraying racing as a vibrant ‘cool’ sport for young people if it is going to constantly leave itself vulnerable to these sort of exposees. We need a strong, credible governing body with real ‘tangible’ power and the ability to rid the sport of the undesireables, a collection of which were exposed on Sunday. The Jockey Club is clearly impotent and unable to perform this function.
