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Mollers everytime. Probably the smartest set of colours in the game and some great horses have carried them down the years too i.e. Pentire, Teenoso and other smart types such as Gulland, Island House, First Island and Swallow Flight.
Sadly Geoff Wragg, the trainer for Mollers Racing is in sharp decline and the colours these days, which is such a shame.
Ballymacoll Stud/Lord Weinstock’s colours are simple, but smart and noticable and he always seemed to give his horses such lovely names.
Think he could have handled the New Approach/Epsom Derby situation well and was probably a little bit too brazen about the whole thing, but the media did blow it up, no doubt.
However, to now accuse the man of playing foul and concocting a story is ludicrous. I don’t really see what he gains from it.
Fair play to JB for keeping the public informed this time.
2.30 ASPEN DARLIN
3.05 BRONZE CANNON (NAP)
3.45 SPACIOUS (NB)
4.20 BUCCELLATI (Halicarnassus e/w)
4.55 CAPTAIN WEBB
5.30 LAA RAYB (Binanti e/w)The bloke calls a horse he spent half a million on Looby Loo??? Nuff said.

check this from the topic "Atlantic Sport" dated 30 July 2007
Atlantic Sport looked the pick of the paddock for me because of his extra size but Aqlaam was not far behind, he is a good looker. I think the first three are all nice colts and that Maiden will look like a Group 3 come the end of October.
Nickwhat a judge I am
Okay Nick, so you so you say that it could throw up a Group 3 winner, but firstly you say in October and secondly Atlantic Sport hasn’t been seen since he was well beaten in the Champagne Stakes (in September) and the second, Skadrak, has yet to win.
I was shot down on this forum when promoting something and I agreed that it was wrong, and indeed this is wrong too. Also, if I am being was to be a pedant (which I am being today) then you haven’t got anything right as you said any of the first three could could make it look a G3 by October, yet none of them won for the remainder of the season.
I said Tartan Bearer was a Derby prospect after he was beaten in his maiden at Newmarket. Does that mean I am a superb judge because he came second? No, I said prospect and didn’t say he was going to win it or even get placed.
I think a penalty is only incurred after September (I think) and seeing as the Sun Chariot is in October and the Coronation is in June, this is the reason.
I still think Majestic Roi’s Sun Chariot win is the best form in the race as she beat Nannina that day. I still think the 16/1 available is nuts considering she has her optimum conditions (Provided the rain isn’t falling). Her temperament and perhaps the penalty may be the stumbling blocks but at the price i’m willing to give it a go.
It is the best piece of form on offer, but she is not the class act as to have class, you must also be consistent and that is something she just isn’t. She was beaten into fourth in a pretty modest Listed Race at Doncaster before winning the Sun Chariot!!! Of course, if she reproduces that form, then she’ll go close, but she is temperamental and for me is a big no no on what she’s shown this season. Good Luck though.

2.30 Jupiter Pluvius (nb)
He is the interesting one of the race and comes here fitter after his fourth in the Irish 2000 Guineas behind classy stablemate Henrythenavigator. It wasnt his stamina that saw him beat that day, but this step back to 7f can only be a good thing and came into this season following a couple of wins in a Leopardstown maiden and a Group 3 at the same track. He is highly regarded and as a son of Johannesburg, has plenty of pace and sure to last longer this time back in a realsitic grade, though does have to contend with a slight penalty, will take a lot of beating if back to his best.
3.05 Sabana Perdida
She is the class act of the race and indeed was third in a much stronger renewal and chased home top class pair Nannina and Satwa Queen and nothing of that calibre here. Also receieved a bump that day which proved deterimental to her chances and she returned to her native France to win the Group 3 Prix du Pin over 7f at Longchamp when winning well. Made her reappearance back in this country last month in the Group 3 Chartwell Stakes at Lingfield when only having to be pushed out to score well and that should have put her spot on for this and sets the standard.
3.45 PHOENIX TOWER (NAP)
He is the big improver in the race and he ran a career best last time on only his fifth career start when runner up to Creachadoir in the Lockinge when not being suited by the gallop and stuck on well that day. Previous to that he had come from an impossible position to win the Group 3 Earl Of Sefton and considering that was his first run after a year long absence, it was a very impressive performance. He is highly progressive and considering he has come back so well from his injury suggests he is a horse of serious talent and ground conditions are neither here nor there for him and over an extra two furlongs, could well go close here. Duke Of Marmalade is a very good horse, but he wasnt convincing last time and looked in trouble before outstaying Finscael Beo and wont be able to do that here.
4.20 Docofthebay
All eyes will be on Bankable here, but he isnt well drawn and also has been kept to slower ground that he is likely to encounter here. No such problems for Docofthebay who has the plum draw in stall one and is the value option after his experience of big race handicaps. Last time out, he had little luck when fourth in the Zetland Gold Cup at Redcar over 10f, which may have not suited either. Last season, he didnt win often enough, but did chase home the smart Pipedreamer in the Cambridgeshire and looks sure to give a decent account and has shown his best on quick ground.
4.20 Overturn (e/w)
He is the fascinating runner here as he has only run just the four times, but clearly has some potential as he showed on his second start in a 7f Sandown maiden under quick conditions when leaving his opposition for dead and quickened up well to score by three lengths. Was thought good enough to contest a Listed Race on his next run, but clearly didnt handle the testing ground and last years itinerary was torn up after an injury laid him low. Made belated reappearance in a mile handicap at Sandown last month when sticking on well for pressure and looked as though the run would do him the world of good and though this demands so much more, gets the quick ground he needs, in off a fair mark, had a pipe opener and he looks a value bet for a place.
4.55 Heart Shaped
The Aidan O’Brien trained Heart Shaped has a big chance and following her debut run in a maiden at Naas and it was hardly surprising she improved upon that run to score next time out as the yards juveniles have tended to need their first run. That win came in a the Listed Marble Hill Stakes at the Curragh where she beat useful yardstick Silver Shoon and should be able to build on that and is a leading contender.
5.30 Cruel Sea
She looked a tip top prospect on her debut on her one and only run as a juvenile in a maiden at Doncaster when picking up well down the outside to see off some useful sorts including Lingfield Oaks Trial winner Miracle Seeker and subsequent winner Red Dune. Reappearance run was when runner up to Saphiras Fire in a 10f Listed Race at Newmarket, but Barry Hills was still happy enough to run her in the Group 3 Musidora Stakes, but she didn’t really see out the trip when a well beaten sixth behind Lush Lashes. However, her pedigree suggests a step back to a mile could suit and is a half sister to the useful Good Standing who was best at around 7/8f for this yard and is my idea of the winner in the finale.
Good Luck one and all!

Didn’t Geoff Banks and Yvette Jelfs (???) do the fashion in the early part of 2000’s??? Back then they used to sit in the studio and comment on shots that had been taken, but that used to literally last for five minutes and only happened three or four times a programme. Now it seems a fashion show with a bit of racing thrown in.
As for James Sherwood, he is a pompus prat who is trying to come across and no holds barred bloke, but in fact he is just another stuck up critic who has no place on our screens.
Mind you, Willie Carson intereviewing techinques are so cringeworthy it’s untrue!!!

Always p*ssed, especially if the race tends to be towards the latter part of the day! Someone I know owned a gelding called Flown with him and said he turns up at most meetings, goes to the bar with his owners and only leaves when he needs to be in the pre parade ring!!!

Still, a top bloke and a top trainer.
2.30 Tariq
3.05 Fleeting Spirit
3.45 Henrythenavigator (Raven’s Pass e/w)
4.20 Instalment (nb)
4.55 Bukit Tinggi
5.30 Brae Hill (Nap)Think Brae Hill could be a very nice sort and the way he won last time out at Leicester couldn’t have been much more impressive. It could be argued he didn’t beat a lot and perhaps this is true, but he destroyed his rivals that day and surely more to come. Instalment in the Coventry, for me, is massively overpriced at 20/1. Yes, he won the first division of the maiden Orizaba won in a slower time and is probably about 10-12 lengths behind him on that evidence but, he was very green that day and once he picked up, he flew and I am sure there is tons of improvement left in him. Tariq in the opener is my other confident selection today. Yes he has to prove he stays a mile, but he was running on in the Lockinge when given quite a lot to do and also holds Cesare, Arabian Gleam and Haradasun on that run and the way he ran on in the Jersey last season was very impressive. Darjina, if back to her Moulin for, would be a massive danger, but hasn’t be the same filly for a while now, albeit on ground slower than ideal.
A great days racing in prospect whatever happens!
From a value perspective and a strict form viewpoint, I suppose I agree. However, Corrybrough, albeit in lesser company, has looked an absolute machine and the way he has come late with less thana furlong to go in his races to come through and win as he has means he could be something quite special and it will be disappointing if he doesn’t win and win well tomorrow.
Soldiers Tale is off to stud after Ascot and apparently (according to davidjohnson) Kingsgate Native has to show he’s trained on!

I know what you are saying, but I feel it does lack a real star as it has done for years.
OK, Fleeting Spirit and…..???

As for the Hughes critisism, it is purely unfounded as far as this season goes. He actually hasn’t done too badly this year and, as already said, the weight lifted off his shoulders from the Abdulla job has done him no end of good. Hope it continues as he seems a genuinely nice guy and not a show off etc.
Jamie Spencer on the other hand…new thread please!!!

I agree with the Moore-Stoute ‘shorties’.
I backed Patkai, Ask, Dr Faustus, Doctor Fremantle (CV), Warringah and Cabinet who all won, but also backed Colony, Doctor Fremantle (HQ hcap), Confront and French Riviera who were all beaten when they should have won.
OK, so I have had more success than failure with them, but you are never going to get rich unless you back the winners at silly prices and the problem is virtually every horse they have is below 3/1, which is ridiculous when you actually look at the horse in question’s form. Perfect example was Naval Review today at Sandown. He ran a shocker last time and simply couldn’t be backed, yet went off something like 5/2 purely because of his connections!

EDIT: And Heritage Coast just got beat in the last at Sandown at 3/1.
The way he has won from behind this season has astonished me as I was worried he was beat both times before finding an electric turn of foot. Agree that he is a serious animal and Candy is so confident that he is already saying he doesn’t want to pitch him in too deep too early! Talk about confidence. Really hope he sluices home tomorrow as the sprinting division, as ever, needs a shot in the arm.
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