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Just my opinion – I believe Soldier Of Fortune is just a shade below what top class is shaping up to be this season.
And if that’s the case, then Duke Of Marmalade is yet another couple of shades below that.
so does this mean Duke aint your banker of meeting?
Christ – I forget if I did call it a banker. Sure I didn’t.
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And if that’s the case, then Duke Of Marmalade is yet another couple of shades below that.
so does this mean Duke aint your banker of meeting?
Christ – I forget if I did call it a banker. Sure I didn’t.
must be someone else using on here with same name then
In the Prince Of Wales, I think that Duke Of Marmalade is over-rated.
I hope not.
I make him my nap of the day –
and Willie Carson simply won’t hear of defeat. He thinks he’s an absolute certainty.Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning
I’ve been really wanting to back Jupiter Pluvius in the Jersey for a few days. He may not have the best form in the book yet, but he could turn out to be very progressive, & could be a different class to most of these. Thought his price was very fair. I’m a bit put off by him being drawn in stall 15 though. Still think I’ll still have a small bet on him.
Don’t really know what to make of the Prince of Wale’s stakes. I would find it a more interesting if it were over 1m4f. There’s a few in there I would not like to back. Sixties Icon and Ask are surely vulnerable over 10f (although dismissing Ask is risky). Much as I’d love Phoenix Tower to win, his 2nd in a slowish run Lockinge is his only real top class form at the moment. I can understand why Duke of Marmalade is favourite. Also see where DJ is coming from with Lierato. I’d be coming from a similar angle, but ending up with a diffent horse. My choice would be Loup Breton, who was in 3rd in the French G1 that Sageburg won, with Darjina (2nd) & Lierato (6th) behind. I really wouldn’t be getting too heavily involved in this though.
Havn’t got a clue about the Hunt Cup, but instinct says I should be trying to find something to back against Bankable (hopefully e/w first five). I notice that there has been some money for Overturn this morning, & it doesn’t look like Pricewise money. If that’s stable confidence, I think I’d be interested in following that.
In the Prince Of Wales, I think that Duke Of Marmalade is over-rated.
I hope not.
I make him my nap of the day –
and Willie Carson simply won’t hear of defeat. He thinks he’s an absolute certainty.me too, on irish radio just there John Murtagh was saying he loves the track has his pacemaker and should be great race, sounds very confident of winning IMO so my nap of day too
2.30 Jupiter Pluvius (nb)
He is the interesting one of the race and comes here fitter after his fourth in the Irish 2000 Guineas behind classy stablemate Henrythenavigator. It wasnt his stamina that saw him beat that day, but this step back to 7f can only be a good thing and came into this season following a couple of wins in a Leopardstown maiden and a Group 3 at the same track. He is highly regarded and as a son of Johannesburg, has plenty of pace and sure to last longer this time back in a realsitic grade, though does have to contend with a slight penalty, will take a lot of beating if back to his best.
3.05 Sabana Perdida
She is the class act of the race and indeed was third in a much stronger renewal and chased home top class pair Nannina and Satwa Queen and nothing of that calibre here. Also receieved a bump that day which proved deterimental to her chances and she returned to her native France to win the Group 3 Prix du Pin over 7f at Longchamp when winning well. Made her reappearance back in this country last month in the Group 3 Chartwell Stakes at Lingfield when only having to be pushed out to score well and that should have put her spot on for this and sets the standard.
3.45 PHOENIX TOWER (NAP)
He is the big improver in the race and he ran a career best last time on only his fifth career start when runner up to Creachadoir in the Lockinge when not being suited by the gallop and stuck on well that day. Previous to that he had come from an impossible position to win the Group 3 Earl Of Sefton and considering that was his first run after a year long absence, it was a very impressive performance. He is highly progressive and considering he has come back so well from his injury suggests he is a horse of serious talent and ground conditions are neither here nor there for him and over an extra two furlongs, could well go close here. Duke Of Marmalade is a very good horse, but he wasnt convincing last time and looked in trouble before outstaying Finscael Beo and wont be able to do that here.
4.20 Docofthebay
All eyes will be on Bankable here, but he isnt well drawn and also has been kept to slower ground that he is likely to encounter here. No such problems for Docofthebay who has the plum draw in stall one and is the value option after his experience of big race handicaps. Last time out, he had little luck when fourth in the Zetland Gold Cup at Redcar over 10f, which may have not suited either. Last season, he didnt win often enough, but did chase home the smart Pipedreamer in the Cambridgeshire and looks sure to give a decent account and has shown his best on quick ground.
4.20 Overturn (e/w)
He is the fascinating runner here as he has only run just the four times, but clearly has some potential as he showed on his second start in a 7f Sandown maiden under quick conditions when leaving his opposition for dead and quickened up well to score by three lengths. Was thought good enough to contest a Listed Race on his next run, but clearly didnt handle the testing ground and last years itinerary was torn up after an injury laid him low. Made belated reappearance in a mile handicap at Sandown last month when sticking on well for pressure and looked as though the run would do him the world of good and though this demands so much more, gets the quick ground he needs, in off a fair mark, had a pipe opener and he looks a value bet for a place.
4.55 Heart Shaped
The Aidan O’Brien trained Heart Shaped has a big chance and following her debut run in a maiden at Naas and it was hardly surprising she improved upon that run to score next time out as the yards juveniles have tended to need their first run. That win came in a the Listed Marble Hill Stakes at the Curragh where she beat useful yardstick Silver Shoon and should be able to build on that and is a leading contender.
5.30 Cruel Sea
She looked a tip top prospect on her debut on her one and only run as a juvenile in a maiden at Doncaster when picking up well down the outside to see off some useful sorts including Lingfield Oaks Trial winner Miracle Seeker and subsequent winner Red Dune. Reappearance run was when runner up to Saphiras Fire in a 10f Listed Race at Newmarket, but Barry Hills was still happy enough to run her in the Group 3 Musidora Stakes, but she didn’t really see out the trip when a well beaten sixth behind Lush Lashes. However, her pedigree suggests a step back to a mile could suit and is a half sister to the useful Good Standing who was best at around 7/8f for this yard and is my idea of the winner in the finale.
Good Luck one and all!
My Selections for today:
2:30 Jupiter Pluvius
3:05 Heaven Sent
3:45 Duke Of Marmalade (NAP)
4:20 Oceana Gold
4:55 Bahamian Babe
5:30 Cruel Sea (NB)Really like Sabana Perdida and We’ll Come today. Bankable could well be another Cumani handicap good thing that had winner of this race all over it when it won’s its seasonal debut, but at the odds it has to be taken on and We’ll Come was an eye catcher when making up ground in the Victoria Cup and has a handy weight and good trainer/jockey combination.
Danehill Destiny looks a very good prospect, and like Art Connoisseur, has already backed up the form of a good debut win. Hopefully Shabiba can justify the high ambitions they had for her earlier in the season off a low weight over a distance that should suit.my selections…
1. Paco Boy – Jupiter Pluvius (backed both of them couldnt decide)
2. Grecian Dancer E/W
3. Duke Of Marmalde (NAP)
4. Bankable
5. Baileys Cacao
6. Jaz Jam E/WOk so a bad day for me yesterday..today i,m on…
Race 1 1st Aqlaam
e/w GeorgeBernardShawRace 2 1st Heaven sent
e/w BaharahRace 3 1st Sixties icon
e/w PipedreamerRace 4 1st Bankable
e/w Ansells prideRace 5 1st Danehill destiny
e/w Bahamian babeRace 6 1st Shabiba
e/w Amanjenalets try a place pot again today.
Ascot
2:30
Stimulation, (( BANKER EW ))
3:05
Sabana Perdida,. ( NAP )
3:45
Duke Of Marmalade,
4:20
Bankable,
4:55
Heart Shaped,
5:30
Makaaseb,good luck
martin
3.05 Sabana Perdida[/b:1l8l2p9r]
She is the class act of the race and indeed was third in a much stronger renewal and chased home top class pair Nannina and Satwa Queen and nothing of that calibre here. Also receieved a bump that day which proved deterimental to her chances and she returned to her native France to win the Group 3 Prix du Pin over 7f at Longchamp when winning well. Made her reappearance back in this country last month in the Group 3 Chartwell Stakes at Lingfield when only having to be pushed out to score well and that should have put her spot on for this and sets the standard.
I still think Majestic Roi’s Sun Chariot win is the best form in the race as she beat Nannina that day. I still think the 16/1 available is nuts considering she has her optimum conditions (Provided the rain isn’t falling). Her temperament and perhaps the penalty may be the stumbling blocks but at the price i’m willing to give it a go.
I still think Majestic Roi’s Sun Chariot win is the best form in the race as she beat Nannina that day. I still think the 16/1 available is nuts considering she has her optimum conditions (Provided the rain isn’t falling). Her temperament and perhaps the penalty may be the stumbling blocks but at the price i’m willing to give it a go.
It is the best piece of form on offer, but she is not the class act as to have class, you must also be consistent and that is something she just isn’t. She was beaten into fourth in a pretty modest Listed Race at Doncaster before winning the Sun Chariot!!! Of course, if she reproduces that form, then she’ll go close, but she is temperamental and for me is a big no no on what she’s shown this season. Good Luck though.
I wouldn’t completely disagree but I thought her last run was actually quite encouraging and I think she needs a mile and a good pace to be seen at her best which she is likely to get. I also think Hollands strength as opposed to hughes quieter style suits her better. I’m hopeful of a win but confident of a place hence i’ve loaded by e/w bet accordingly on bf.
Hopefully she’s on a going day as she is more than capable of winning this.
Loads of brilliant races today
Providing ground stays Gd-Fm, I’ll be on:
Calming Influence 9-2
Majestic Roi 20-1 (well over priced with the ground in hwer favour this time and an encouraging run last time)
Phoenix Tower 5-1 (Hattan e/w @100s for fun) have got Duke of Marmalade in my flat ttf but wasnt hugley impressed by him last time, was more impressed with phoenix tower in the lockinge.
Diamond Tycoon e/w @ 33-1 and Orchard Supreme e/w @ 50-1
Connie Mac 66-1 and Langs Lash 20-1
Shabiba 8-1 and Comeback Queen 16-1
I wouldn’t completely disagree but I thought her last run was actually quite encouraging and I think she needs a mile and a good pace to be seen at her best which she is likely to get. I also think Hollands strength as opposed to hughes quieter style suits her better. I’m hopeful of a win but confident of a place hence i’ve loaded by e/w bet accordingly on bf.
Hopefully she’s on a going day as she is more than capable of winning this.
I would agree with you there Aragorn, although i have nothing against RH I am happier that Holland is on this particular one.
I’m taking a chance on Pressing reaching the frame against DOM in the POW, maybe Spencer can get Flipando shifting late in the Hunt Cup
( Fight Club EW is worth a look) , tossing up between Sugar Free & Lucky Leigh in the 4.55 and likewise Jazz Jam & Comeback Queen in the last. Oh and War Officer in the first.
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