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Is it just me, but how is this man so highly regarded as a jockey?
He’s like Phil Neville. Not as good as he’s made out to be and lucky yet had many caps (for england) or in Hughes’s case catalogue of great mounts.
He’s so hard to read though. He has a feel for the race and keeps the horse’s stamina, buts that precisely the problem.
He’s so highly rated but I do not know ANYONE who’s had a winner with him on board. He’s let me down for a couple of odds on favorites on the all weather at Great Leighs, a placepot (the last race I needed as well) on a ridiculously hot favourite at Folkestone/Pontefract i think, Home Affairs in the Diomed Stakes (waited too long thus got boxed in), Nahood (had HTN in the 2k previous day to win anyway like but still annoying) in the Guineas and Youmazin in the Oaks. All for the same reason. He waits far TOO LONG to start his push for the finish, stays at the back too long, pulls the horse up and then darts to the finish and annoyingly instead of coming nowhere finishes 2nd just off 1st. In the Oaks had he gone on Youmazin a bit earlier he’d of won it.
The best jockeys identify trouble before its seen. As was said in the recent ‘love or hate him’ article in the Racing Post.
Khalid Abdullah and Stoute lost patience with him and he now has to ride for his brother in law Hannon.
There must be something good about him.
I like his personality like, seems a sound bloke, not arrogant or nothing. Just not my cup of tea as a Jockey.
Does anyone win on him?
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I take it you get rants about him a lot then?
Sorry. Didn’t know. Same old same old then and all that?
April 20-97 21% +5.22 3-11 27% +3.50 8-46 17% -4.88 9-40 23% +6.59
May 19-119 16% +12.04 8-22 36% +9.48 4-50 8% -24.27 7-47 15% +26.83For the last two completed months, backing Richard Hughes’ mounts would have returned a profit at SP ~ doubtless an enormous one on the exchanges, due to the utter morons who claim to make money laying his rides at Betfair SP and above.
I used to feel the same about Hughes.
But I now believe horses travel further on the bridle for him than any other jockey.
Are horses particularly below their best form with Hughes on board?
Do horses who have Hughes on board last time, suddenly improve for another pilot? Possibly for Moore, Dettori or Sanders but probably not for any other.
Mark
Value Is EverythingI like Ryan Moore lads, but might be wrong because you lads have probs been watching Horseracing a lot longer.
Moore gets the best out of the horse, to impress me you don’t have to give it a John Thorne (see spartan missile GN 81) or Pat Eddery ‘Roy Rodgers’ whipping performance, just push the horse as far as reasonably possible.
I’ve watched Hughes recently and started to see some of his talents, and tried to appreciate him a little more. Which I have, its just each time I haven’t won, although I do conceed and knew as Rory pointed out he’s in good form of late.
I’m no particular fan of Hughes, but from a punting perspective, you might as well follow him as anyone else. Ryan Moore and Jamie Spencer, due to their riding styles, are not always the punters friends. Kerrin McEvoy was last season, but these things tend not to last…..
Like Hughes has said, whilst the owners want a win they also want a jockey they can trust to look after the horse, so he’s rather unselfish about his own career and looks after the horses.
I had to laugh when Moore was lauded for his ride on Conduit on Derby day – he must have had 20 pounds in hand on a very progressive horse.
I had to laugh when Moore was lauded for his ride on Conduit on Derby day – he must have had 20 pounds in hand on a very progressive horse.
Even so, he certainly impressed this here viewer. I think he’s a very good jockey.
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I must admit I feel these rants about jockeys are a bit harsh and unfair. Yes, they carry our money and when they lose we always feel they could have done something better but you cannot make all the correct decisions all the time.
Trust me, as an ex-professional sportsman I know that split second desicions are how races or games are won or lost and no-one is going to make the right call all the time! I’ve also been on the recieving end of some pretty nasty shouts from my own fans when that deisicion turns out to be the wrong one. It’s not a nice thing but is part and parcel of life and the true test is that you have the courage and belief in your ability to make the desicion again.
I just feel we should maybe lay off the jockeys a bit!! Only my opinion.
Regards, Jonny
I had to laugh when Moore was lauded for his ride on Conduit on Derby day – he must have had 20 pounds in hand on a very progressive horse.
True yet although it still pains me to say it he did give Tartan Bearer a great ride in the Derby.
Just wasn’t quite good enough
Lee
Very good jockey I agree. Just made me laugh when people went overboard about his ride. Conduit was so well in Moore could have stopped off for an ice cream in the straight..
I agree with the Moore-Stoute ‘shorties’.
I backed Patkai, Ask, Dr Faustus, Doctor Fremantle (CV), Warringah and Cabinet who all won, but also backed Colony, Doctor Fremantle (HQ hcap), Confront and French Riviera who were all beaten when they should have won.
OK, so I have had more success than failure with them, but you are never going to get rich unless you back the winners at silly prices and the problem is virtually every horse they have is below 3/1, which is ridiculous when you actually look at the horse in question’s form. Perfect example was Naval Review today at Sandown. He ran a shocker last time and simply couldn’t be backed, yet went off something like 5/2 purely because of his connections!
EDIT: And Heritage Coast just got beat in the last at Sandown at 3/1.
As for the Hughes critisism, it is purely unfounded as far as this season goes. He actually hasn’t done too badly this year and, as already said, the weight lifted off his shoulders from the Abdulla job has done him no end of good. Hope it continues as he seems a genuinely nice guy and not a show off etc.
Jamie Spencer on the other hand…new thread please!!!
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