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Glad though to see Gingertipster continues to make a good living out of the sport. May he one day share his secrets.
I have.
Value Is EverythingGlad though to see Gingertipster continues to make a good living out of the sport. May he one day share his secrets.
I have.
Indeed he has, full time arber
I’ve held back until now from passing comment. How stupid is this man? It’s clear that horses are finding it very difficult to make up ground from the back… yet time and time again Moore drops them out the back in the hope of a miracle and then watches them finish like a train to finish 2/3rd. Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting different results… Moore is by that definition a very stupid person
I’ve held back until now from passing comment. How stupid is this man? It’s clear that horses are finding it very difficult to make up ground from the back… yet time and time again Moore drops them out the back in the hope of a miracle and then watches them finish like a train to finish 2/3rd. Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting different results… Moore is by that definition a very stupid person
Hmm…commentator’s curse!
I’ve held back until now from passing comment. How stupid is this man? It’s clear that horses are finding it very difficult to make up ground from the back… yet time and time again Moore drops them out the back in the hope of a miracle and then watches them finish like a train to finish 2/3rd. Stupidity is doing the same thing over and over yet expecting different results… Moore is by that definition a very stupid person
Maybe he thinks he is Jamie Spencer?
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I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways“Commentator’s curse” indeed. :lol:
Or should that be “jockey in the stands” curse?
Ryan is riding like Jamie, yes folks – he’s that good!
Value Is EverythingGlad though to see Gingertipster continues to make a good living out of the sport. May he one day share his secrets.
I have.
Indeed he has, full time arber
Never arbed in my life Ben.
Value Is EverythingHe stayed a bit closer to the pace finally and gets the rewards. Took him 2 and a half days to realise.
What stupid people these last two posters are. Ryan Moore a world class top jock in all respects being slagged off by morons who have probably never even sat on a horse. You are talking about horses here, who are all individual and all need to be ridden as such. Ryan Moore is world class at that as proven today,not that he needs to prove anything,his record speaks for itself. I just wish thick, moronic, pocket talking punters like wexford man and Troy would learn a bit more about race riding and horsemanship before writing drivel about brilliant jockeys.
It makes my blood boil.What stupid people these last two posters are. Ryan Moore a world class top jock in all respects being slagged off by morons who have probably never even sat on a horse. You are talking about horses here, who are all individual and all need to be ridden as such. Ryan Moore is world class at that as proven today,not that he needs to prove anything,his record speaks for itself. I just wish thick, moronic, pocket talking punters like wexford man and Troy would learn a bit more about race riding and horsemanship before writing drivel about brilliant jockeys.
It makes my blood boil.Bit harsh, but I know how you feel edfiggyrock, some don’t understand about the intracacies of jockeyship, temperament of horses and how a lot must be ridden a certain way, how pace/fractions help or hinder a ride. eg There’s always so much negativity on here about a hold up ride that finishes second – strong pace often means being at the back is an advantage. Where as jockeys who’s mounts weaken after riding prominently in an overly strongly run race are unfortunately seldom criticised.
However, punters do not need to have any experience of being a jockey or even ride horses to know these things. Think of C4 Jim Mcgrath, Steve Mellish, Eddie Freemantle etc. If studying form in the correct manner a punter can learn the craft of race reading. Indeed, it is an important part of profitable punting. Sometimes jockeys do deserve criticism from punters.
Value Is EverythingLong island sound has raced only a few times. Each time he was up with the pace. Moore today dropped him at the back on a track that it has been very difficult to make up ground on all week. Doesn’t appear to be very intelligent really. He gave pique sous of Willie Mullins way too much to do the other day yet finished fast to come 6th.
edfiggyrock2, Are we not allowed an opinion, the Wexfordman was making a point. Carravaggio, Even song and Order of st george top quality rides. Frankie on lady Aurelia, best ride all week so far. I also believe Moore top class jockey but in a free world we should be allowed to express our opinion. Oh please Mcgrath, sits on the fence all the time.
Order of St George won through his class, Ryan was in all sorts of trouble a mile out which can happen in races in big fields and other jockeys playing tactically not always the jockeys fault but had he got beat I’m sure he would have got slaughtered by some.
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Lady Aurelia most impressive performance of the week, but without in any way disrespecting Frankie I think any jockey would have won on her.
For me the best ride of the week so has been James Doyle on Portage. Positioned perfectly throughout the race (on what some, pre race, thought would be the disadvantaged side) and saved enough to hold off late comers.
edfiggyrock2, Are we not allowed an opinion, the Wexfordman was making a point. Carravaggio, Even song and Order of st george top quality rides. Frankie on lady Aurelia, best ride all week so far. I also believe Moore top class jockey but in a free world we should be allowed to express our opinion. Oh please Mcgrath, sits on the fence all the time.
Seriously? I would have won Lady Aurelia, and pretty much everyone else on this forum.
His Galileo Gold ride was by far the best of his three.
Order of St George won through his class, Ryan was in all sorts of trouble a mile out which can happen in races in big fields and other jockeys playing tactically not always the jockeys fault but had he got beat I’m sure he would have got slaughtered by some.
Spot on Nathan.
Also, Order Of St Geore is a hold up horse at staying distances to make the most of his speed. Has front run at 1 1/2 miles but had he raced prominently or tracked pace there’d be a good chance of being too free at this extended trip. Therefore, it made sense to play the percentages and hold the horse up in mid-division. Of course in that situation things can happen around him and can be shuffled back – did lose a few places 5 out. Am sure had Order Of St George got beat some would’ve criticised Ryan for being too far back. But had he been more prominent and the horse lost through being too free (stamina not lasting out) – am sure they’d criticise that ride too.
There are often reasons why a horse is ridden the way it is.
Even when a horse is usually ridden prominently, if connections can see plenty of other prominent runners in the race and/or pacemakers – then the most likely way of losing is by racing prominently/tracking pace… Which is why a jockey of a horse usually prominently ridden “plays the percentages” – opts to hold the horse up if connections believe the horse capable of changing tactics. Obviously if too many of the race’s “prominent runners” opt for this option the pace is not as strong as expected and changing tactics backfires. I believe this is what happened to The Gurkha (two pace makers and a natural front runner in the race you’d expect a good pace). Possibly could’ve made a move a bit earlier, but although it cost me plenty of money I can not blame Moore, he played the percentages which did not pay off.
Am confident The Gurkha will be crowned Champion Miler at the end of the season.
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