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Unless Costello made a huge cock-up, Quiet Reflection was going to win. In the event, he came close to that disaster by getting to the front much too soon. It’s nonsense to compare a poor-to-OK ride on the best horse to any of the half-chances Moore seized or missed.
Unless Costello made a huge cock-up, Quiet Reflection was going to win. In the event, he came close to that disaster by getting to the front much too soon. It’s nonsense to compare a poor-to-OK ride on the best horse to any of the half-chances Moore seized or missed.
I would largely agree with that, although would Quiet Reflection even have won if the 2nd hadn’t been so wayward?
Bet connections of Kachy didn’t sleep well, the one that got away. Would they be blaming Kingscote?Regards the Costello/Moore comparison, it’s an unfair one. One is a journeyman jockey who’s managed to win a G1 and good luck to him, while the other is the pre-eminent jockey in Britain today. From the experience I’ve gathered over the years and in my opinion, Quiet Reflection would have won comfortably with Moore aboard and Twilight Son would have been unplaced with Costello aboard. Moore lifted the horse home, as well as lifting Candy out of the doldrums.
Hard to believe Limato’s owner prefers to have Harry Bentley on his horse
Still it takes all sorts.Serious egg on the face for a few on here though, with 6 wins, 4 seconds and 7 thirds think the boy did okay last week
Manny was his brother, but he was in the same yard at one point as Eph Smith – perhaps that’s where the confusion’s arising
Yes, you’re quite right, I was thinking of Doug and Eph.
Eph Smith was just an ok jockewy of the same era.
I’ve edited my post accordingly.
Unless Costello made a huge cock-up, Quiet Reflection was going to win. In the event, he came close to that disaster by getting to the front much too soon. It’s nonsense to compare a poor-to-OK ride on the best horse to any of the half-chances Moore seized or missed.
I would largely agree with that, although would Quiet Reflection even have won if the 2nd hadn’t been so wayward?
Bet connections of Kachy didn’t sleep well, the one that got away. Would they be blaming Kingscote?Regards the Costello/Moore comparison, it’s an unfair one. One is a journeyman jockey who’s managed to win a G1 and good luck to him, while the other is the pre-eminent jockey in Britain today. From the experience I’ve gathered over the years and in my opinion, Quiet Reflection would have won comfortably with Moore aboard and Twilight Son would have been unplaced with Costello aboard. Moore lifted the horse home, as well as lifting Candy out of the doldrums.
Hard to believe Limato’s owner prefers to have Harry Bentley on his horse
Still it takes all sorts.Serious egg on the face for a few on here though, with 6 wins, 4 seconds and 7 thirds think the boy did okay last week
According to the Racing Post Quiet Reflection led 100 yards out and was returned 7/4, not 1/5. So obvious a winner that I see you tipped the French horse to beat him. There was absolutely nothing poor about the ride. With nothing left to toe him into the race and the second racing wide apart it made the timing of the ride that much more difficult.
As for Moore’s ride the idea that someone ‘lifts a horse home’ is overplayed yet again. Basically his mount just saw the race out better than the opposition, pure and simple. The key factor factor in the win was Magical Memory coming with what looked a winning run but faltering in the last few yards. The French horse had been in front and couldn’t quite see it out and the Hong Kong runner just got going too late.
The reason I highlighted Costello’s ride – and I think I made it quite clear – was that he had one big chance of glory and he delivered. It doesn’t really matter if you think Moore would have won comfortably. He might, he might not. That’s pure guesswork as he rode shorter priced horses than Quiet Reflection this week and didn’t get the job done.
Just posted this on the Diamond Jubilee thread, but thought I should stick it here too ……
Hats off to Ryan Moore, he’s taken some flack of late, some deservedly, but
that was an awesome ride, very strong at the finish to get Twilight Son in
front at the line. Well done sir
But was it any better than Dougie Costello on Quiet Reflection? Personally, I don’t think so, particularly as it was Costello’s one big chance of the meeting, in fact one of the few he will get all season. A totally different sort of pressure to Moore who had the opportunities to forget about previous disappointments every day of the week.
Absolutely not Stilvi, I take my hat off to Costello too, but I wasn’t intending a competition between the two,
just commenting on a very good ride by Moore. I’ve been critical of him, quite rightly I think at times, so
it’s only right to acknowledge when he rides a very good race That’s all I was on about.Nobody gets it right all the time. Ryan will know he probably should have won on Alice springs and the ghurka but also gave sir Isaac Newton a superb ride. He is lucky he gets to ride for the best stable in training and he’ll know himself if he gets it wrong. He moved on to ride a hat trick yday so confidence is not an issue.
According to the Racing Post Quiet Reflection led 100 yards out and was returned 7/4, not 1/5. So obvious a winner that I see you tipped the French horse to beat him.
Behave yourself Stilvi. I never told anyone Cheikeljack was going to win and never said anything against Quiet Reflection. I was just chasing bigger prices to make up ground in the competition.
As I’ve said to other posters, you cannot return to SPs or pre-race odds to show a horse’s actual chance of winning. They only illustrate perceived chance (+industry overround). What you can use in hindsight is the evidence of the race replay.
Some punters aren’t going to be very pleased with Ryan on Irish Rookie. Choosing to go up the rail.
Some punters won’t be pleased with Spencer, deliberately moved reigns to tighten up Irish Rookie.As someone who’s on both (winner) Namroodah and the second Red Box, it won’t make much difference to me (I’ll make more if the second gets it).
My luck has changed, Irish Rookie should’ve won had Jamie not ridden to close the gap.
Commiserations to connections and punters of Irish Rookie.
Value Is EverythingYou certainly got lucky there Ginge because your bets should have been 2nd. and 3rd. but i’m sure you’ve had things go the other way before but Spencer looking up at the big screen and tugging his horse into Moore’s was awful and he’s lucky it wasn’t Kieron Fallon or he’d be in the Royal Berkshire hospital now having his teeth removed from his anal passage.|
Well done ginger….great picking
I was pretty sick after as I was waiting on Irish rookie for a yankee 
IMO though it was an excellent piece of race riding by Spencer. .. he didn’t have to let Moore through on rail and IMO rode within the rules to win the race…..as for moore why such an experienced jockey decided to go for the rails run when he could’ve pulled out is beyond me…..I think Moore got schooled by Spencer!!!if I was on Spencer I would’ve been saying bravo!Sorry have just seen Spencer lost the race so obviously it was a poor ride and has cost me
I’m one of Jamie’s biggest fans but he was a lucky boy to only get a 3 day ban here.
Once again though the incompetence of local stewards is clearly evident, I thought it was cases like this that “improper riding” was introduced? It beggars belief that Paul Barton states that they didn’t even consider that and surprising Oli Bell didn’t pick him up on it. It looked like a deliberate manoevre to block Moore out to me not careless riding.
Any criticism of Moore is nonsense, you don’t ride a race in anticipation that other jockeys may be careless or improper.
Funny that nobody has been on here praising his ride yesterday.
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Funny that nobody has been on here praising his ride yesterday.
That’s because I was on the second Joni.
It was a good ride mind you, so much so that you knew it was game over before half wayGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
Like all jockeys he has good rides and the occasional bad one too!!
Like you Nath I backed the second and knew the game was up a long way out!! You could almost see Frankie thinking I wish someone would go after him but not me!!
Joni, ryan moore was allowed to dictate the pace, i backed the winner.
So the hacks in the racing media once again not critical of the jockeys behind.
It was a poor King George, AOB, ran Highland Reel because he knew especially on the faster ground he would beat Dartmouth. Whether he would of beaten Postponed dictating pace we will never know.
Matt Chapman was right poor race for the group 1 status and money.
Does anyone know if Order of st George is heading for the Melbourne Cup.
Still it takes all sorts.
IMO though it was an excellent piece of race riding by Spencer. .. he didn’t have to let Moore through on rail and IMO rode within the rules to win the race…..as for moore why such an experienced jockey decided to go for the rails run when he could’ve pulled out is beyond me…..I think Moore got schooled by Spencer!!!if I was on Spencer I would’ve been saying bravo!
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