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I missed the price with Enable but just hope she enhances her Arc chances and Highland Reel runs a brave race in spite of the ground.
My only bet so far is My Slow Boat e/w 33/1
I’m on Hawkbill virtually every time he runs including that win at Newmarket last time at 7s.
I still think he’s godolphins best middle distance horse including jack Hobbs and frontiersman. This isn’t an antepost race for me but he’s 16s with skybet which is tempting.
I’ll wait til the declarations though.
Would love to see enable run though. For the good of the race.
Wise to wait MOM.
I think the only reason Hawkbill is as big as 16/1 is his chance of actually turning up being included in the price.
I’d want 4/1 for him even running on Saturday, but if he does will imo be around 10/1 on the day.Hawkbill not declared
No idea who I’ll play on Saturday. Will be a bet in a small multiple to watch when I get in anyway. Probably the favourite if the ground is soft tbh.
Seems a weird decision not to declare Hawkbill given the likely conditions. If I can 20s and 1/4 odds the place on Saturday I’ll probably have an each-way dabble on Benbatl.
Seems a weird decision not to declare Hawkbill given the likely conditions. If I can 20s and 1/4 odds the place on Saturday I’ll probably have an each-way dabble on Benbatl.
I think they realise the horse probably isn’t up to winning a race like this and when they have Jack Hobbs as a main contender, it probably makes sense to hold Hawkbill back especially when you consider how hard a season he’s had already.
Seems a weird decision not to declare Hawkbill given the likely conditions. If I can 20s and 1/4 odds the place on Saturday I’ll probably have an each-way dabble on Benbatl.
I think they realise the horse probably isn’t up to winning a race like this and when they have Jack Hobbs as a main contender, it probably makes sense to hold Hawkbill back especially when you consider how hard a season he’s had already.
He won the Eclipse last year in soft conditions beating The Gurkha so I would think he’d be capable of at least going close on Saturday.
imo Hawkbill needs a certain type of race to win these days. Kicking for home after dictating either a slow or no more than a fair gallop. Godolphin’s best hope is Jack Hobbs, who can be a bit free (like in the Eclipse despite that being run over a shorter trip than Saturday’s 1m4f). ie Jack Hobbs’s best chance of winning is in a truly run race where he can settle far easier. Therefore, running Hawkbill how Hawkbill wants to race may increase Hawkbill’s chance – but it would actually reduce Godolphin’s overall chance of winning – destroying Jack’s chance. Not surprised Hawkbill is out.
Much better to make sure it’s a truly run affair. Trouble is Maverick Wave is pretty useless as a pacemaker, not good enough to win even if getting a massive positional advantage – all Godolphin’s rivals can ignore him if they so wish. However, it’s in Enable’s best interests to have a truly run race and she is capable of going for home some way out. So I expect Frankie to go a good pace behind Maverick Wave. Therefore Jack Hobbs should get the pace he needs; whether he will be good enough?
Hawkbill can race at 1m2f to 1m4f on good or softer, not too far away from home (poor traveller). Should have more opportunities before the end of the season.
Value Is EverythingGinge makes sense again.
The racing tomorrow will give us some idea of what conditions will be like but on a side note about Ulysses, I went back and looked through the form and was suddenly reminded that it was soft ground when he annihilated the field in his Newbury maiden win last year and very much on the soft side when he won the Gordon Richards. Maybe he’s not as ground-dependent as is made out?
I think they’ll cope with conditions and I might be tempted with a little nibble on Idaho at 10/1 given he finished placed in The Derby and Irish Derby on soft ground. There’s also every reason to believe he can still improve for his Hardwicke win.
Was that a day you went to Newbury Charles?
I watched Ulysses from the stands with Jonibake.
It was an impressive display on good-soft. However, he displayed a perfect point the toe action. I made a note whatever he does on good-soft will in all probability do better on a firmer surface. At the moment that’s what it looks like. Although still could be a coincidence and perhaps is just improving now. After all, Gordon Richards was his best up to then. Personally, have big doubts on even good-soft but may be I’m biased. Be very surprised to see him run on soft.Value Is EverythingStop stirring Judge, you’ve made your point. Sunspangled and Charlie have a right to their opinions – as you do.
I’m not stirring ginge, I’m the one who’s getting attacked.
It’s not in my interests to make people feel uncomfortable on a forum. If i’ve gone too far, I apologise. I’m not a troll (honest)
Going is good to soft after 3mm of rain in the last 24 hours
Showers forecast for this afternoon and evening
No love for Benbatl? I’ve tried him E/W at 20s and Idaho at 10s to win.
I fully respect Benbatl and it would be dangerous for anyone to dismiss him. He showed he can handle give when 2nd to Permian in the Dante and should have gone a lot closer in The Derby. I think he could run a big race and his price is more indicative of the class in the race rather than a detriment to Benbatl’s ability.
I’ve already backed Jack Hobbs each-way at 10/1 and if I back another one it will probably be either Idaho or Benbatl but have yet to make up my mind as I do like Idaho’s chances too.
Surely a bit of value in Ulysses at 9/1?
I don’t think he’ll run.
Seems a weird decision not to declare Hawkbill given the likely conditions. If I can 20s and 1/4 odds the place on Saturday I’ll probably have an each-way dabble on Benbatl.
I think they realise the horse probably isn’t up to winning a race like this and when they have Jack Hobbs as a main contender, it probably makes sense to hold Hawkbill back especially when you consider how hard a season he’s had already.
He’s an Eclipse winner!
On his best performances, he’d be top 3 in this every day of the week.
I think I’ll be doing Enable.
Her Oaks performance was just too good on similar ground to tomorrow to look past. Jack Hobbs’ Ascot run makes me instantly oppose him.
I may have a tiny play also at 66/1 each way on the Argentinian horse. He may well be good enough to finish 3rd if the race is run how I think it will be.
High class race for sure
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