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According to social media ‘Henderson confirmed on 2fm sport tonight (last night) that Whisper goes JLT’.
Delighted if true. Should be
Attheraces now reporting Henderson to be unsure of Whispers destination! :
I should of cashed out.
For what it’s worth. I think Politologue is the best each way bet of the festival. The closer it gets, the more confident I am.
Yorkhill didn’t put in a great round of jumping yesterday by all accounts, apparently Bellshill even fell.
I liked yorkhills jumping yesterday got in tight and got out of trouble, made a few big leaps but overall he seemed to learn from his mistakes, biggest issue will probably be tryinf to settle him more than anything, hes a live wire…
Bellshill fell at the first
I was a bit puzzled that Willie Mullins declared himself “delighted” with Yorkhill yesterday and then turn around and say they would school him again because of some dodgy jumps.
To be honest, I’ve never really been as big a fan of Yorkhill as some people. He looked dodgy at Aintree last year and was beaten at odds-on, when he was disappointing at Punchestown later that month. To my eyes he’s a bit quirky and we didn’t really glean anything positive regarding Cheltenham from two egg and spoon Novice Chase wins.
There was negativity in Yorkhill’s last chase win in my opinion though. I just don’t think he looks to be a good jumper of fences and I see him as an accident waiting to happen at Cheltenham. Maybe I will be wrong but he doesn’t convince me as a good thing at the odds.
I feel Top Notch may be a tad overrated here. I did not want to take the odds ante-post after his latest win and can’t recommend him at half those odds now. The trouble is that his last run was against horses who couldn’t seem to jump to save themselves. The Favourite, Clan Des Obeaux was always struggling that day before coming into it slightly for heavy pressure but that then caught up with him and he was stone last. La Prezien jumped like a slag, rather than a stag, that day and I feel that sentiment about Top Notch being a bit of a pet in the yard and a horse out-jumping his size took over after the race and the entire team seemed to be floating along on a cloud that was sitting some height above planet reality.
I though Waiting Patiently was the value at 16/1-20/1 and could not see why Politologue was half the odds, as he seemed to be beaten fair and square when the two met. Waiting Patiently has picked up a small injury and misses the race, something I had a funny feeling about and I had an insurance on Politologue at 8/1, to follow the form line into this race.
I feel Politologue is one of Nicholls’ better chances this week and would take a match bet at 6/5 with Top Notch.
Yorkhill has been speculated over for several races at Cheltenham but I think the trainer realises this is his only real chance. His Hurdle rating isn’t as high as his reputation is and I am still trying to stop laughing about a guy on another forum who suggested Yorkhill was a good bet for the Arkle, musing that he is only rated as far behind Altior as he is over fences because “He only ever just does enough to win” I smell BS there.
I’ll leave Yorkhill to the faithful. Duffman has a bad feeling about him though.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
I was a bit puzzled that Willie Mullins declared himself “delighted” with Yorkhill yesterday and then turn around and say they would school him again because of some dodgy jumps.
To be honest, I’ve never really been as big a fan of Yorkhill as some people. He looked dodgy at Aintree last year and was beaten at odds-on, when he was disappointing at Punchestown later that month. To my eyes he’s a bit quirky and we didn’t really glean anything positive regarding Cheltenham from two egg and spoon Novice Chase wins.
There was negativity in Yorkhill’s last chase win in my opinion though. I just don’t think he looks to be a good jumper of fences and I see him as an accident waiting to happen at Cheltenham. Maybe I will be wrong but he doesn’t convince me as a good thing at the odds.
I feel Top Notch may be a tad overrated here. I did not want to take the odds ante-post after his latest win and can’t recommend him at half those odds now. The trouble is that his last run was against horses who couldn’t seem to jump to save themselves. The Favourite, Clan Des Obeaux was always struggling that day before coming into it slightly for heavy pressure but that then caught up with him and he was stone last. La Prezien jumped like a slag, rather than a stag, that day and I feel that sentiment about Top Notch being a bit of a pet in the yard and a horse out-jumping his size took over after the race and the entire team seemed to be floating along on a cloud that was sitting some height above planet reality.
I though Waiting Patiently was the value at 16/1-20/1 and could not see why Politologue was half the odds, as he seemed to be beaten fair and square when the two met. Waiting Patiently has picked up a small injury and misses the race, something I had a funny feeling about and I had an insurance on Politologue at 8/1, to follow the form line into this race.
I feel Politologue is one of Nicholls’ better chances this week and would take a match bet at 6/5 with Top Notch.
Yorkhill has been speculated over for several races at Cheltenham but I think the trainer realises this is his only real chance. His Hurdle rating isn’t as high as his reputation is and I am still trying to stop laughing about a guy on another forum who suggested Yorkhill was a good bet for the Arkle, musing that he is only rated as far behind Altior as he is over fences because “He only ever just does enough to win” I smell BS there.
I’ll leave Yorkhill to the faithful. Duffman has a bad feeling about him though.
I don’t buy the Politilogue hype, Barters absolutely smashed him at Newbury last year. The horse didn’t run well at the festival last year (20th in Coral Cup) even though Nichols had a pretty good festival. Nichols has had 7 runners in this all unplaced at prices of 6/1, 13/2, 20/1, 5/1, 8/1, 11/2, 20/1. Mullins on the other hand has trained 3 winners from 6 renewals.
I don’t buy the Politilogue hype, Barters absolutely smashed him at Newbury last year. The horse didn’t run well at the festival last year (20th in Coral Cup) even though Nichols had a pretty good festival. Nichols has had 7 runners in this all unplaced at prices of 6/1, 13/2, 20/1, 5/1, 8/1, 11/2, 20/1. Mullins on the other hand has trained 3 winners from 6 renewals.
He must have about 1 millionth the Hype of Yorkhill though. 8/1 was/is hardly the odds of a hyped horse. At least Politologue can jump and the fact of the matter is that Politologue beat Rock The Kasbah and Royal Vacation back in December, Rock The Kasbah has won since and Royal Vacation has won twice since, including the Kauto Star chase at Kempton on Boxing Day. That, in my opinion, is the pick of the form on offer here. The two horses Politologue beat are far superior to anything Yorkhill has faced so far over fences. It’s all about value for me and 8/1 vs 6/4, as it was at the time, was not hard for me to favour,
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
At his stable day Mullins was asked the question “apart from Douvan, who do you think represents your best chance of a win”?
I was expecting him to say Yorkhill but he said Un De Sceaux. It just sort of struck me then that 6/4 on Yorkhill looks dodgy when Mullins rates Un De Sceaux’s chances higher. Interesting as well that he has such confidence in Un De Sceuax by suggesting he has a better chance than Lets Dance, Airlie Beach, Yorkhill and Vroum Vroum Mag..
Have backed Yorkhill at 5/2 NRNB. He’s my nap of the meeting.
I have him at 4/1 so fingers crossed..
I’m actually sick of all the form analysis at this stage; just cant wait for it all to kick off next week
Have backed Yorkhill at 5/2 NRNB. He’s my nap of the meeting.
5/2 for the biggest loon (not straightforward doesn’t do him justice) in training. Well done.
I don’t buy the Politilogue hype, Barters absolutely smashed him at Newbury last year. The horse didn’t run well at the festival last year (20th in Coral Cup) even though Nichols had a pretty good festival. Nichols has had 7 runners in this all unplaced at prices of 6/1, 13/2, 20/1, 5/1, 8/1, 11/2, 20/1. Mullins on the other hand has trained 3 winners from 6 renewals.
He must have about 1 millionth the Hype of Yorkhill though. 8/1 was/is hardly the odds of a hyped horse. At least Politologue can jump and the fact of the matter is that Politologue beat Rock The Kasbah and Royal Vacation back in December, Rock The Kasbah has won since and Royal Vacation has won twice since, including the Kauto Star chase at Kempton on Boxing Day. That, in my opinion, is the pick of the form on offer here. The two horses Politologue beat are far superior to anything Yorkhill has faced so far over fences. It’s all about value for me and 8/1 vs 6/4, as it was at the time, was not hard for me to favour,
Oh totally, but STD has said this is his best chance of a winner and he’s been talked up a bit by Nichols too. So I don’t think the horse is without a bit of hype but clearly not as much as Yorkhill.
Personally, I just don’t really rate him Steve.
I think this race is kind of seen as a tin pot race as it doesn’t have the history of The Arkle or RSA but in recent years it’s been a pretty decent race. Two 6yo have won this Sir Des Champs and Vautour, multiple grade 1 winners going close in a Gold Cup and King George respectively. Three other 6 yos have managed to place Uxizandre, Valsuer Lido and Lami Serge. The first 2 finished 1st and 2nd in a Ryanair respectively and have won multiple grade 1s and Lami Serge clearly has a ball of talent just doesn’t know how to apply it.
As Politilogue is also a 6yo I just do not think he’s at that kind of level personally. Is he your idea of the winner Steve?
I think the ground is going against politiloge. Personally,i think it wants plenty of juice to be seen at its best. Got totally outpaced and run off his feet in the coral last year on similar ground as whats forecast for this year. LAY
Have backed Yorkhill at 5/2 NRNB. He’s my nap of the meeting.
5/2 for the biggest loon (not straightforward doesn’t do him justice) in training. Well done.
Good luck Steeplechasing with your bet and I hope you are right, but I do fear for him next Thursday. I bet him for Arkle, and the Champion and stayers, and was really hopeful he would actually go over timber but alas, not to be.
I thought the sky was the limit for him this season, but I would have to side with Stilvi here, and I can’t put my finger on it, but I now just think he might have a few issues going on
Have backed Yorkhill at 5/2 NRNB. He’s my nap of the meeting.
5/2 for the biggest loon (not straightforward doesn’t do him justice) in training. Well done.
Good luck Steeplechasing with your bet and I hope you are right, but I do fear for him next Thursday. I bet him for Arkle, and the Champion and stayers, and was really hopeful he would actually go over timber but alas, not to be.
I thought the sky was the limit for him this season, but I would have to side with Stilvi here, and I can’t put my finger on it, but I now just think he might have a few issues going on
He’ll trot up. He might not win far, as I expect Ruby to hold onto him until after the last, but he’ll be the most impressive odds-against winner at the meeting
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