JLT Novices Chase

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    ham
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    Yorhill is by presenting, one of the three current sires who has an outstanding cheltenham festival record.

    Who should improve for better ground

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    thejudge1
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    I might be way wide of the mark here (as I so often am these days) and I respect Yorkhill, but given the doubts over his jumping and ability to settle, I’ve come to the conclusion that POLITOLOGUE is the outstanding value bet in this.

    Earlier in the season there was a lot of hype around this horse after a breathtaking display at ascot, but subsequent defeat at haydock dampened that down quite a lot. I think the ground and the fact that he was forced to make his own running was partly contributing to that, and the good ground he’ll get here will help his jumping and I think he could be greatly underestimated by the market.

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    stevecaution
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    I might be way wide of the mark here (as I so often am these days) and I respect Yorkhill, but given the doubts over his jumping and ability to settle, I’ve come to the conclusion that POLITOLOGUE is the outstanding value bet in this.

    Earlier in the season there was a lot of hype around this horse after a breathtaking display at ascot, but subsequent defeat at haydock dampened that down quite a lot. I think the ground and the fact that he was forced to make his own running was partly contributing to that, and the good ground he’ll get here will help his jumping and I think he could be greatly underestimated by the market.

    Are you changing your mind on a day to day basis Judge? One minute it’s Yorkhill all the way and then Politologue is the best bet in years :scratch:

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1291922
    thejudge1
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    I might be way wide of the mark here (as I so often am these days) and I respect Yorkhill, but given the doubts over his jumping and ability to settle, I’ve come to the conclusion that POLITOLOGUE is the outstanding value bet in this.

    Earlier in the season there was a lot of hype around this horse after a breathtaking display at ascot, but subsequent defeat at haydock dampened that down quite a lot. I think the ground and the fact that he was forced to make his own running was partly contributing to that, and the good ground he’ll get here will help his jumping and I think he could be greatly underestimated by the market.

    Are you changing your mind on a day to day basis Judge? One minute it’s Yorkhill all the way and then Politologue is the best bet in years :scratch:

    Well it’s true my lack of confidence is eroding my judgement… and probably my marbles :mail:

    I don’t really know what’s going to win… I’m not an expert like you Steve! I’m just a guesser.

    Just lay whatever I put up that seems a fairly sound system :good:

    #1292448
    Gingertipster
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    Got 7/1 each way ante-post Top Notch and just done win bets on 13/2 Politologue and 28/1 Kilcrea Vale.

    value is everything
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    Gingertipster
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    Got 7/1 each way ante-post Top Notch and just done win bets on 13/2 Politologue and 28/1 Kilcrea Vale.

    My 100% Book:
    15/8 Yorkhill, 100/30 Top Notch, 11/2 Politologue, 13/2 Disko, 16/1 Flying Angel, 20/1 Kilcrea Vale, 40/1 Balko Des Flos, 400/1 Baily Cloud.

    value is everything
    #1292464

    fivelongdays
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    I like Top Notch a lot, and Politilogue has loads to like about him but, really, Mullins horses can’t keep on running like shite all week, can they?

    Can they?

    Can they…

    Twitter=@PGHenn

    So don't run, just like the others always do

    #1292471
    GoldenMiller34
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    For me the obvious play is Top Notch with Skybet, ‘money back’ if doesn’t win.

    #1292558
    Zarkava
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    Baily Whatsit might just nick a place at 25s

    #1292562
    Middle_Of_March
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    Yorkhill’s jumping plus the Mullins rumour puts me off him.

    I said in a written preview i do for every cheltenham race that the best horse between fences is undoubtedly Yorkhill but if ever there was a place where bad jumpers get found out, its here.

    Played Top Notch at 100/30 and Politologue 11/2

    #1292595
    charlie87
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    I would love Yorkhill to win this

    #1292639
    Venture to Cognac
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    I really like this race, but never one I would have a serious bet in.

    Probably minimum stakes ew on 2 from Flying Angel, Kilcrea Vale, and Baily Cloud.

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    raymo61
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    Same as Bobby am on Kilcrea Vale Flying Angel and the giggs outsider e/w small.

    Good race to watch!!

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    robnorth
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    I’ve covered three here, Disko, Flying Angel and Politologue.

    The latter looks the strongest of these and I fancy his price reflects being beaten by one from ‘Oop North’ in Waiting Patiently! Bearing in mind Cloudy Dream’s performance what a pity Waiting Patiently as out for the season as I think he is an even better animal than CD.

    Rob

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    Gingertipster
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    Poor ride by Jacob, letting Ruby up the inner.

    value is everything
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