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Native River and Djakadam are almost certainties to place now.
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although native river seems made for the gold cup, he doesn’t have a great record at cheltenham.
Tizzard to train gold cup winner 4/9 from 4/6
Even 4/9 is value on the face of it. In a best-price book, (discounting Theatre Guide) his 4 runners make up 75.8% – a shade shorter than 3/1 on. It had been around 4/11 for quite some time, yet Skybet continued offering 4/6
If people are backing a 4/9 shot 2 months in advance, in something as volatile as horse racing, that is mad imo.
How’s that 4/9 working out for you, Joe?
How’s that 4/9 working out for you, Joe?
4/6 I took. And it’s not working out so well at the moment.
It’s working out even less well for Colin and Joe Tizzard, the Snooks, the whole team down there and every true racing fan. Still, I’m sure they’ll happily sacrifice the horse, the Gold Cup and the next year when they hear that you’ve got some satisfaction from it that you can make public on a forum and puff your chest out.
This years Gold cup winner wont get the credit they may well deserve now Thistlecracks out…I wanted to see Cue Card win this fair and square and prove to all those doubters from last year that he would have won the 2016 renewal..It doesn’t matter who wins it, the question will be asked..” But would they have beaten ‘Thistlecrack'”..From a non financial position its certainly robbed the race of being an absolute cracker,from a financial position I have lost my 11 month old 10/1 vouchers and a double with ‘Alpha des Obeaux’ so this is the first Ante-Post kick in the teeth for me and no doubt not the last.
How’s that 4/9 working out for you, Joe?
What an incredibly classless thing to say from the forums resident snide.
Hope you still get a result Steeple…although,of course,it has absolutely nothing to do with my ante post bets on NR.
No need to worry Steeps.I cant have anything other than a Tizzard gold cup winner. I think the 4/6 pays out anyway.
This years Gold cup winner wont get the credit they may well deserve now Thistlecracks out…I wanted to see Cue Card win this fair and square and prove to all those doubters from last year that he would have won the 2016 renewal..It doesn’t matter who wins it, the question will be asked..” But would they have beaten ‘Thistlecrack’”..From a non financial position its certainly robbed the race of being an absolute cracker,from a financial position I have lost my 11 month old 10/1 vouchers and a double with ‘Alpha des Obeaux’ so this is the first Ante-Post kick in the teeth for me and no doubt not the last.
I had come to the view that Cue Card would win before the news about Thistlecrack and, regardless of the latter’s absence, if Cue Card does his popularity will ensure such a rousing and emotional reception, a great Festival moment, that nobody will be asking “what if?”.
I had come to the view that Cue Card would win before the news about Thistlecrack and, regardless of the latter’s absence, if Cue Card does his popularity will ensure such a rousing and emotional reception, a great Festival moment, that nobody will be asking “what if?”.
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Hear, hear GM
How’s that 4/9 working out for you, Joe?
4/6 I took. And it’s not working out so well at the moment.
It’s working out even less well for Colin and Joe Tizzard, the Snooks, the whole team down there and every true racing fan. Still, I’m sure they’ll happily sacrifice the horse, the Gold Cup and the next year when they hear that you’ve got some satisfaction from it that you can make public on a forum and puff your chest out.
I can’t see you having a problem. Native River was going to win anyway.
Well, my biggest ante post bet so far was Cue Card to win the Gold Cup – without Thistlecrack 7/1. Basically it does not really changes anything, but the punt was made at the time that Cue Card was about 20/1.
It would be great to see Cue Card win, and certainly not only because of the betting. It would be a real fairy tale to see him win the biggest one of all seven years after winning the bumper.
Native River and Djakadam are almost certainties to place now.
WARNING:
although native river seems made for the gold cup, he doesn’t have a great record at cheltenham.
I wouldn’t say that. One place out of 3 runs. The other 2 were hurdles in which he was a long shot. He has also improved massively even on last year’s festival run. I would love Cue Card to win though.
Cue Card can’t possibly win it…he’s had 4 runs this season…twice in testing conditions against questionable opposition and won on the bridle…and twice on better ground and come off the bridle and found little….
At 11 years old what will he find when Paddy starts pushing? On the probable better ground against plenty of tough and thorough stayers….answer = very little like at Wetherby and Kempton…
Disappointing that Thistlecrack is out of the race, would have been a major talking point.
On Saturday the general feeling seems to be that Cue Card put in an impressive performance at Ascot, but it didn’t do much for me. He was ridden to keep tabs on Royal Regatta and I’d struggle to see that one getting involved in a spring Grade 1. He drew right away in the finish which bodes well going back up in trip but it all seemed like quite hard work to me.
I see lots of love for Djakadam here which is understandable given his place record in the race but if for me I don’t know why anyone would back Djakadam at 1/2 when Don Poli can be backed e/w at 16/1. I would much prefer to back the latter at those prices.
Looking at the odds now, Empire Of Dirt @ 20/1 NRNB looks by far the best bet to me.
Disappointing that Thistlecrack is out of the race, would have been a major talking point.
On Saturday the general feeling seems to be that Cue Card put in an impressive performance at Ascot, but it didn’t do much for me. He was ridden to keep tabs on Royal Regatta and I’d struggle to see that one getting involved in a spring Grade 1. He drew right away in the finish which bodes well going back up in trip but it all seemed like quite hard work to me.
I see lots of love for Djakadam here which is understandable given his place record in the race but if for me I don’t know why anyone would back Djakadam at 1/2 when Don Poli can be backed e/w at 16/1. I would much prefer to back the latter at those prices.
Looking at the odds now, Empire Of Dirt @ 20/1 NRNB looks by far the best bet to me.
They interviewed Michael O’Leary at the weekend and he was pretty definite that Empire Of Dirt would go Ryanair unless anything went wrong with Outlander and Don Poli. Surely he would want to have chances in both races and although Empire Is Dirt is clearly better than a 20/1 chance he has a favourite’s chance in the Ryanair.
Cue Card can’t possibly win it…he’s had 4 runs this season…twice in testing conditions against questionable opposition and won on the bridle…and twice on better ground and come off the bridle and found little….
At 11 years old what will he find when Paddy starts pushing? On the probable better ground against plenty of tough and thorough stayers….answer = very little like at Wetherby and Kempton…
First race of the season at wetherby is negligible, he was always going to come on for the race (at his age aswell).
His next defeat was on a track that does not suit him atall, he has a terrible record at kempton, his only win was when his stamina got tested, its not his track, its right handed and too flat, he measures the fences poorly,so id put a line through that effectively, yes he was beaten by thistlecrack a more than worthy winner, but cue card simply did not run to his mark- fact (not trying to discredit TC atall)
saturday didnt tell us much apart from the fact that he is still capable
if he runs 170+, who in the race can match that, theres a bunch of 160 odd horses running against a horse who could easily run well into the mid 170s and leave them for dead
The only question is does he have that left in him at 11, if he does, he wins…
I wouldnt write him off now especially that TC is out
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