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- May 7, 2018 at 21:40 #1353407
I was thinking of backing Ralph Beckett’s Kinaesthesia for the Cheshire Oaks at 6/1 but decided to leave it. Once she came into 5’s and then 4’s it was easy to let it lie.
For sure she should improve this season but her debut win was rated only 72 on RPR’s and her Topspeed figure was only 3 (Yes three, I haven’t missed a digit out)
Whatever wins will probably be trimmed in for Epsom more than she is actually due.
Apparently it’s Breakfast With The Stars and then The Oaks for Lah Ti Dar now and she sits at a good level for such a lightly raced filly.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 7, 2018 at 22:13 #1353410As you’ve mentioned her Steve, I may as well reveal that she was the one I’m having a decent bet on for the Cheshire Oaks on Wednesday.
Think she will prove to be far superior to the rest of this field.
May 7, 2018 at 23:54 #1353425Thanks for that, Bobby. It would appear she is more than just two weeks behind schedule. Weld notified the press today after the Tetrarch that she was likely to miss her appointment in the Blue Wind (not the Blue Grass – she won’t be running at Keenland
), as she was far more backward than a lot of his at this stage. She obviously isn’t the easiest filly to get right, not making her debut until late October last year.I think Weld’s comments today all but rule her out of the Oaks, and I think it’s far more likely at this stage that he trains her for a tilt at the Irish equivalent.
Weld said he considered sending Imaging over to France for the Poule D’Essai, so perhaps a tilt at the Prix de Diane is on the cards for Contingent? It would give him another couple of weeks to get her right, and sending her into the Irish Oaks – against what could potentially be a very smart winner of the Epsom equivalent – would be a big ask. There doesn’t seem to be a standout French filly as of now, although there are a few nice unexposed types and the Pouliches has yet to be ran of course.
May 8, 2018 at 00:19 #1353429She’ll have a chance MOM, she just didn’t quite meet my figures requirement. I like to set the limit at horses who record more than 80 on their first start at two. Maybe I’ll be kicking myself for no taking 6/1 but I need to stick to my figures which are based on 30 years of observation. Good luck

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 8, 2018 at 16:05 #1353469How in the blue hell is Billesdon Brook not even considered for this race by Hannon? Mental. Based on breeding the horse was more likely to win a Melbourne Cup than a 1000 Guineas. Didn´t look like she was stopping either.
May 8, 2018 at 22:56 #1353491Bolts up in a slowly run Guineas and you want her to go another half mile?
May 9, 2018 at 08:09 #1353496Yeah, she would be the lay of the century if she came here, saying that, she probably is just that regardless of where she goes…
May 9, 2018 at 14:26 #1353512My filly looks as cool as a cucumber.
Come on Kinaethesia
May 9, 2018 at 14:49 #1353513I had to put a bet on the race to be able to watch it on my Bet365 app and rather fortunately landed on Magic Wand but missed the 4/1 and had to settle ror 7/2. The draw made my mind up in the end and in reality the race was never in doubt. That looked a sub standard renewal and i’d be disapointed should Magic Wand go onto Epsom glory. She’s unexposed and cleary useful but i suspect connections will be happy if she were to finish in the placings.
May 9, 2018 at 15:10 #1353514The second was probably the more eyecatching of the two.
Well beaten, but trouble in running and ran well.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!May 9, 2018 at 15:28 #1353516Terrible run from my filly. No excuses. Been a good day so far with Young Rascal in the last for the lot.
Good run from the winner I thought. 12s probably fair.
May 9, 2018 at 15:48 #1353520An awful run from Kinaesthesia and no chance of her running in the Oaks.
As I said, the winner would be likely to be cut too far for the Oaks and I think 10/1 for Magic Wand is silly myself. Year after year, these trial winners prove well short of the class required. This was a weak race where several ran shockers.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 9, 2018 at 18:05 #1353532Forever Together general 16s and some 20s is even short for my liking currently.
She’s the one for me to take from the race- whilst these trials looks weak…Enable and Wings Of Eagles have shown that it’s possible for some of them to improve further than you’d have believed.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!May 12, 2018 at 14:17 #1353754Underwhelming Lingfield Oaks trial for me. It won’t stop the press hyping up the winner though.
The O’Brien filly was a weak favourite according to Chapman and the ground today was very different from the gutters she ran on last time out. She tried to do it after the suicidal front runner capitulated but was passed by a couple with more toe.
A nice enough show from the Nathaniel filly Perfect Clarity but you would be thinking Group 3 more than Classic at this stage. 10/1 for the Oaks with Bet Victor is nonsense in my opinion.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 12, 2018 at 14:50 #1353760Agreed Steve, nice type but not sure that good enough for the Oaks, 10/1 is way too short.
May 14, 2018 at 10:50 #1353899September won’t be ready in time for the Oaks AOB told the media day at Ballydoyle this morning
May 14, 2018 at 12:45 #1353901Ouch. That hurt me. My only consolation is Bet365 didn’t react and allowed me to cash out my bets with them at 25/1 for double my money.
After last weeks cash out, th loss is far smaller than it would’ve been.
Everything cashed out again went on La Ti Dar.
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