April 20, 2018 at 15:52 #1351240
Just seen the race. Very impressive. Got better the further she went.
Finally some competition for my filly at Epsom.April 20, 2018 at 15:57 #1351241Nathan HughesParticipant
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Nice pedigree and in good hands
I’ll stick her in the Ante Post comp Joni, your fault if she loses…Member since March 2008April 20, 2018 at 16:06 #1351245
Too skinny for me at 12/1. The runner up had been third to Gosden’s Highgarden on her other start and that race is 0/11 since. Plenty of promise of course but Enable fever means you’ll never get great value.
Shutter Speed looked fantastic first time up last season and was the bust of the year pretty quickly.
Great start though but there are group winners in the mix who are arguably better value than a maiden winner at 12s
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.April 20, 2018 at 16:13 #1351246
Agreed 12’s is skinny which is why I’m pleased with my 33’s and 20’s!!!
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"April 20, 2018 at 16:40 #1351252hamParticipant
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She was very impressive, some extremely promising pedigrees in that race in general, might prove to be a decent enough race in the future, personally i dont think 12/1 is that bad a price atm, not until ive seen the others out in the guineas and/or upped in trip… a few more bubbles burst and this horse could be pretty short in the coming weeks.
Good catch with the 33s joni.April 20, 2018 at 20:32 #1351282
The 2nd and 4th in today’s race both came in with RPR’s of 74. Good pedigree’s don’t always mean much and today’s joint favourite White Light was by Dubawi and entered in the 1000 Guineas but she ran like a box of smashed crabs beaten 20 lengths.
There may be loads of improvement to come of course but these looked moderate to me and the Oaks entries for Hugo Palmer’s filly and Stoute’s filly look unlikely to be kept.
Is this filly more highly regarded than Highgarden Joni?
Whatever, it’s a great bit of foresight getting 33/1 on her Joni
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.April 20, 2018 at 21:59 #1351293
To be honest Stevie it wasn’t foresight. As she crossed the line I was on Oddschecker and found 33’s with PP. They only let me have a bit but I got the rest on at 20’s.
You and I have had these chats many times in the past and you know that I don’t worry much about RPR’s achieved as 2 year-olds or in their maidens. They are rarely representative of what ability the horse actually has or will end up being. An early season Newmarket or Newbury maiden is normally a target for the big trainers and I’m sure today was no different (this race was won by Eswarah and Dancing Rain). There was a lot of people hyping the Stoute horse in this race but she was disappointing. Obviously Lah Ti Dar has plenty to prove but she LOOKS a million dollars, is BRED to be a million dollars and has RUN like she could be a million dollars. Frankie “loved” her to boot. Time will tell and I have made plenty of misjudgements in the past but she just looks a very nice filly to me.
BTW – not sure where she is rated with regard to Highgarden.
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"April 23, 2018 at 22:29 #1351714
Wow – anyone else hear James Willoughby talking about Lah Ti Dar on The Verdict?
“I think this was the most exciting performance of the weekend by 100 miles. I think this is a superstar horse in the making and I think when she gets over a mile and a half she’ll be one of the best in Europe. She’s absolutely potentially brilliant and I base that on what she did in the final furlong…..she must be 20lbs better than these. I’d say she’s probably a triple digit horse already, she was as green as grass but has a pedigree to die for, a world class trainer and I’d be absolutely staggered if she’s not a Group 1 horse eventually. It may not be next time but I think she will make one in the end.”
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"April 24, 2018 at 00:11 #1351716
That’s all well and good Joni but it isn’t any more than I said myself in reality.
As I pointed out the 2nd and 4th came in with ratings of 74, so if Lah Ti Dar is 20 lbs better than them, it need only be a 94 rating to reach that degree of separation in ability.
She could be anything but don’t be worrying about what James Willoughby says. I wonder if HE is sitting on 33/1?
I would back your opinion over his any day of the week. James Willoughby is coming in late to the party, and as for the performance of the week, I would bet money that 2YO Sergei Prokofiev will have a better RPR than Lah Ti Dar when the dust settles on his win at Navan on Monday evening.
All in good time I say. Many “Superstars” haven’t quite reached it. Two Enables in the space of 12 months would be asking a lot.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.April 24, 2018 at 09:14 #1351738
Very true Stevie and thanks for the compliment!! You’re right about that Aiden 2 year old. He looks a bit special doesn’t he. This is what I love about this time of year; the budding superstars, the promise of more to come, that anything is possible. There’s nothing that excites me more in racing than seeing an impressive maiden winner and thinking “that looks a group 1 winner”. Most of them turn out not to be of course but when they do it makes it all worthwhile!!April 24, 2018 at 14:05 #1351759Nathan HughesParticipant
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Regards the pedigree to Lah Ti Dar am I right in thinking the mother Dar Re Mi had her share of injury woes.? She only has a small sample of foals to go off but So Mi Dar suffered a set back, it’s just a thought and probably all coincidental.
De Treville 6 y/o 10 runs
So Mi Dar 5 y/o 7 runs
Erdogan 4 y/o 1 runMember since March 2008April 30, 2018 at 02:15 #1352604
September now a bests priced 8/1.
33s and 25s look tasty now. She’ll be 7/2 in a week after she wins the Guineas lads.April 30, 2018 at 14:04 #1352636KevMcParticipant
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Crystal Hope won very well at Sandown on Friday, beating what I thought looked a good novice including Gosden’s well regarded Highgarden.
She’s one I want to be with going forward, hopefully she trials again before running here.April 30, 2018 at 15:44 #1352642
Good shout Kev. She certainly showed some potential for this race.
Could be a very good Oaks this year. The Godolphin horse, September, Lah Ti Dar, etcApril 30, 2018 at 17:43 #1352657
She would need to be added though Kev. Stoute not one to rush his fillies. Wouldn’t be surprised if you see her j. a Ribblesdale..
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