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- May 29, 2018 at 23:29 #1355347
The rain will be music to the eyes of Charlie Appleby (and me) for Wild Illusion.
I’m pretty confident she will go close now as she has the best form as well as liking the ease.May 30, 2018 at 10:44 #1355363Sea of Class and Magical out
May 30, 2018 at 11:21 #1355370Good luck to those on Wild Illusion at 16/1, she’s generally 5/2 Fav now in what looks an awful Oaks.
I think Lah Ti Dar would have sluiced up in this with the ground having turned in her favour.
Just a slight worry about the trip for Wild Illusion, it is another half mile and she was only 1/2 a length from placing in the Guineas. She should get there but sometimes they can deceive.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 30, 2018 at 11:25 #1355371Took 100/1 on Forever Together (only £5 EW) before the trial at Chester. The more I watch that race back the more encouraged I am. Only really saw daylight 1f out and stayed on powerfully.
Nice bit of thinking there Charlie. She’s 5/1 generally now.

Shows how quickly it can all change.
Best of luck

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 30, 2018 at 11:53 #1355376Cheers Steve. I must admit (people probably remember) that Matt Chapman actually said on air before the race at Chester that Forever Together was 100/1 for the Oaks and it was this, plus decent runs behind Who’s Steph and Contingent, that made me think 100/1 was worth it. Fingers crossed – I liked that run at Chester not just because the step up in trip should suit, but if they go off a clip then I think it will suit Forever Together.
May 30, 2018 at 16:09 #1355390Aye best of luck Charlie. Win or lose, you look like getting a real run for your money with those odds so well played.
I’m left with Wild Allusion 4/1 NRNB. Had either Sun Maiden or Sea of Class made the race (also both NRNB), I planned to cash out with Bet365 on the Godolphin filly.
Unfortunately, they are both out so I’m left with the favourite. A real shame that September never run for me as she’d beat this field by 10 lengths.
May 30, 2018 at 16:58 #1355397Not on slow ground she wouldn’t have.
May 30, 2018 at 17:00 #1355398The weather will play a bit part in this (obvious enough i know) If it comes up G/S or Soft could anyone really be backing Magic Wand or Forever Together?
Wild Illusion to me price wise is much more appealing even being shorter than those two. The ground will pose no issues and the trip should really be fine too.
The one i will be chancing is Ejtyah at 20/1. It wasn’t a bad reappearance at all, and she’s looks to be one that needs a good trip. I guess the ground is a question mark having races only on AW and GF, but some of her relations did ok on it and i guess at her price i can take the chance.
She doesn’t have piles to make up with Give and Take, considering it was her reappearance and only her 2nd run of her life.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!May 30, 2018 at 17:51 #1355404Good point that Kev. I hadn’t thought of that.
May 30, 2018 at 17:54 #13554054th choice on jockey bookings but ill probably end up siding with bye bye baby, no point in backing her right now, once the market catches on she will drift and seamies horse will shorten
Absolute minefield of a race, shes (wild illsuion) got to be one of the worst favs this race has had for a while lol
What rating is the winner going to need to run to, 110 might be good enough on this field with question marks above most…. wish theyd kept laurens for this.
May 30, 2018 at 18:01 #1355407It’s undoubtedly a poor renewal Ham. I think it’s pretty clear the favourite wants this step up in trip. The rain suits. She isn’t a Taghrooda, a Minding or an Enable but she will probably be good enough to win this. Though Godolphin in the classics is not a recipe I tend to follow.
It says something that the Ribblesdale will almost definitely be a better race than the Oaks this year.
May 30, 2018 at 19:34 #1355422Ham why is Wild Illusion a poor favourite? She has group 1 winning form.
If people think the race is a minefield of a race, poor renewal, etc then just back the favourite.
Sometimes in horse racing the obvious can stare you in the face.
May 30, 2018 at 20:14 #1355428In fairness Mike it really does look a poor Oaks.
I’ve done as you suggested and backed Wild Allusion but I’d have been against her in virtually every one of the Oaks of the last 10 years.
May 30, 2018 at 21:19 #1355432Mike007, i think Ham’s meaning how poor a race it is that Wild Illusion is the outright fav, not that she’s a poor fav in the context of this race.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!May 30, 2018 at 21:29 #1355435I was up on the downs today ( I am a local). I don’t have a going stick but as an racing enthusiast that ground is no worse than good to soft at the moment. In fact I would say it was good ground. Not going to argue with the clerk of the course though. It is just my opinion
May 30, 2018 at 22:21 #1355439shes the best horse in the race on ors, at this moment she is rated 4lbs clear and a deserved fav in this lineup… BUT shes just way to short on her formline for me and i couldnt back her, whoevers on at a decent price well done. Her guineas starting point was a nice return.
I think Shes going to be mullered by the ballydoyle army in this, the last horse they will want to win this is the godolphin horse. Buicks going to have to be pretty wise to the occasion (hes more than capable of course)
Im not dubawis biggest fan either and i can just see one of the 4 galileos improving past her
But shes a decent horse and i wouldnt put anyone off backing her, the price is the main issue i have and i couldnt back blind on her sketchy group 1 form, im actually quite sketchy of the whole 1000 guineas form, laurens head and shoulders above them when she gets her trip, 10f looked too short for her i think she would have pissed up in this, thats another reason ill be looking for something that didnt run in that race.
Good luck with her though
May 31, 2018 at 07:57 #1355458wasps that’s quite an interesting piece of news, cheers
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