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    Twice Over
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    O’Brien will have to get creative here and be prepared to travel. I doubt he will have the record in mind, after all, Group 1s in Europe are what count (I refer to the mid season ones, compared to the global races)

    I don’t think the ex Wesley Ward’s horse will race much , Ascot maybe that is it. No certainty she will win. July Cup as well? Aidan ain’t exactly an expert in the sprints (I know he has won it) Wachman use to get the sprinters

    The Epsom 2nd, who ran a fine race, will probably go for the Irish Pretty Polly and hose up and then try the Nassau. By then Shutter Speed will likely run it that so long as the French Oaks goes well. There is no telling what will happen in the Irish Oaks but Ribblesdale winners don’t have the greatest of records (Bracelet won both in 2014ish)

    I am not entirely convinced that Order of St George will win the Gold Cup, but, who has he to beat? Jessie Harrington’s horse?

    Highland Reel, to be fair to him, might have another Group 1 in him. For his sake, he should be given a real chance to prepare for the Arc and just run in the King George and maybe York (he will likely be sent to the Breeders and Hong Kong or Japan at the end of the season) I just don’t want to see him in races like the Prince of Wales or Eclipse and the ICS.

    Definitely keep Chruchill at a mile, he ought to clean up

    He should and will send horses to the Belmont Invitational Derby and the Belmont Oaks which will be on around the time of the Eclipse. Who does he send to Arlington Millions? Deauville and USAR? I can’t really see Somewhat win the Yorkshire Oaks giving weight and she won’t beat the boys in a Group 1 (decent Lockinge performance) perhaps the Beverely Dee – Juddmonte will have two good horses in Arlington for that (Time Test and Suffused)

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    Twice Over, i agree also that he wont have the record on his mind or even care for it in the slightest. It seems he is not an attention seeker at all, quite the opposite in reality.

    Regarding the record, for sure that a target of 4 non EU and 4 Two year old G1’s is quite realistic this year.

    On a side note did anyone see the race that Idaho ran today FTO? He looked really promising.

    Plenty of time for something to come out of the woodwork. It’s hard to imagine that Highland Reel got beat in the Hardwicke before going on to bigger things last year.

    A little while ago it looked like the older horses would be carrying the flag, but in less than a month we have had Churchill, Winter, Rhododendron, Roly Poly, Alluringly & Hydragena all being G1 winners or placed. And that’s before 3 French Classics, 3 Irish and 2 English.

    I think if someone went 6/1 i would have a bet on it still. WH are not betting on it as far as i can see.

    What price are you Lost Soldier ?

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    French Derby Entries

    Orderofthegarter
    Taj Mahal
    War Decree

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    There’s one for the record books Botchy!

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    There’s one for the record books Botchy!

    Won well i thought, never touched him. Irish Derby next maybe ?

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    Give me a couple of days to digest it and I’ll get back to you, Botchy. The brain is totally fried after a surreal day of trading up at Hexham. I wish I was Simon Nott and was free to tell a few stories!

    Epsom was a good meeting for O’Brien, though again I had the Oaks, Derby AND Coronation Cup on the important pile. Two out of three ain’t bad but the task gets harder and harder as we start to rely more on him blagging those international G1s. The French Derby would be a major bonus of course, hope one of his trio can outrun their odds.

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    There’s one for the record books Botchy!

    Won well i thought, never touched him. Irish Derby next maybe ?

    Yeah I see no reason why he shouldn’t go there next, I don’t think he’ll confirm the form however.

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    French Derby Entries

    Orderofthegarter
    Taj Mahal
    War Decree

    No joy today. Looks like next port of call is Royal Ascot, might not be the biggest shock in the world if War Decree picked one up.

    20 Required – 20% + there after a month.

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    I thought the horses ran well in France today, could see one or both of Orderofthegarter and War Decree heading off to the US to tackle those three G1s that Deauville and Long Island Sound ran in last year.

    Roll on Royal Ascot. Churchill, Winter, Caravaggio and Order of St George are all short price favourites, and Acapulco is in with a shout.

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    Big week ahead for Team Ballydoyle :yes:

    French Oaks

    Rhododendron

    No betting on the record ATM

    No winner – 20 needed

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    The following are the Bet Victor prices (usually best reflect likelihood of running) for the upcoming G1s:

    Prix de Diane:

    Rhododendron 7/4

    Queen Anne:

    Deauville 10/1
    Cougar Mountain 20/1

    King’s Stand:

    Washington DC 12/1

    St James Palace:

    Churchill 4/7
    Lancaster Bomber 16/1
    Whitecliffsofdover 20/1
    Orderofthegarter 20/1
    Peace Envoy 33/1

    Prince of Wales:

    Highland Reel 11/4
    Deauville 14/1
    Johannes Vermeer 25/1

    Ascot Gold Cup:

    Order of St George 4/5
    Kingfisher 20/1

    Commonwealth Cup:

    Caravaggio 4/5
    Intelligence Cross 20/1
    Peace Envoy 33/1
    Pedestal 33/1
    Alphabet 100/1

    Coronation Stakes:

    Winter 4/7
    Hydrangea 16/1
    Roly Poly 16/1
    Rain Goddess 20/1

    Golden Jubilee:

    Acapulco 10/1
    Washington DC 16/1

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    Royal Ascot Day 1

    Queen Anne

    Cougar Mountain
    Deauville

    King’s Stand

    Washington Dc

    SJP

    Churchill
    Peace Envoy
    Lancaster Bomber

    No winners – 20 required

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    Royal Ascot Day 2

    Prince of Wales

    Highland Reel
    Johannes Vermeer

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    Royal Ascot Day 2

    Prince of Wales

    Highland Reel
    Johannes Vermeer

    Super Sub racks up another

    19 Required

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    On a side note, that win brings up 300 Group 1 winners for AOB :wacko:

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    That’s a staggering stat. I know he has the ammunition but that is amazing.

    #1305521
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    Am I alone in really wanting to know what AOB was chatting to Princess Anne on the podium about after the remarkable Highland Reel won at Ascot because it was almost a shock to see him looking so animated ,expressive and unguarded in his manner.

    I’m not a big fan of the multiple darts at the board approach at Ballydoyle in terms of numbers of runners but I’m increasingly frustrated by hearing the same old (albeit always gracious and polite) platitudes from AOB after the victories…really detracts from the sense of joy of victory that there should be to me…if his head is elsewhere other than wanting to be on TV at that moment then don’t do it.

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