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July 31, 2018 at 11:52 #1361610
jack,timeform give him a rating of 108p 10lb below Calyx
July 31, 2018 at 11:54 #1361611Oh well, I got longer out of that Ante Post bet than I usually do before the boot swings and lands right in the plums.
I’ve had a bet on my Derby horse Quorto at 14/1 now, with Calyx out to 8/1 in the Guineas.
Gosden seems cursed with the 2000 Guineas.
Quorto will get the trip easily and he will go favourite for the Guineas if he wins his next race.
Quorto 14/1
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
July 31, 2018 at 13:57 #1361634Gets put away for the season and all of a sudden he can’t win a race next season? Plenty of time folks.
July 31, 2018 at 14:08 #1361637Plenty of time but not ideal
Don’t think many of the bookies will take much money mind you most are 5/1 still
sportingbet 4/1, I’d be surprised if they take a penny.
They can be sharp in reducing future prices before a horse has run a race yet slow as spongebob’s pet snail when it comes to push one out.Blackbeard to conquer the World
July 31, 2018 at 21:03 #1361707That snail is called Gary Nathan and I’ve seen several of mine running like him lately.
Kingman had a setback after his second run and didn’t run again after that race on 31st August. I backed him for the Guineas the next Spring because I felt there was little else with as much potential and that if the colt bounced back he would be value at 9/1.
It went to plan as he bolted up in the Greenham but somehow he was run out of it in the Guineas, in what turned out to be a fluke win for Night Of Thunder. Kingman went unbeaten thereafter and it’s a bit ironic that his son has followed the same path. At the same time it shows that they can come back sometimes.
What will probably happen is that Calyx will win on his reappearance, go off short and get chinned by a horse who was already behind him previously.
Any odds on that happening?
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
August 10, 2018 at 15:55 #1362634I’m hoping to see more improvement tonight from Christmas, when he runs at Tipperary.
I don’t like trying to pick out Classic horses the year before, as I think so much of it is guesswork until the latter stages of the season, but I thought I would throw his hat into the ring. He would have to be a slow burner, as his feeble debut, was only erased last time, but I thought that that win was full of promise. Thankfully he isn’t listed and I won’t have to lose any money right this minute.
August 23, 2018 at 12:40 #1363880With what happen to Calyx have took 14/1 for ANTHONY VAN DYCK expect him shorter after this week as well
August 23, 2018 at 13:41 #1363889I’m going against Anthony Van Dyck in the Futurity Darren. Hopefully I will get a decent price about Klute.
Not sure if it’s the virus they have had but early prospects for O’Brien, like Sergei Prokofiev and Van Beethoven haven’t really gone on as expected and I am a bit worried about their quality for now.
Hopefully Harrington’s 1/1 Klute can build on a promising debut and give the fav a fright.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
August 23, 2018 at 23:12 #1364053King Of Comedy 33/1
Form of his impressive maiden win has been boosted well by Persian Moon previously and this week Phoenix Of Spain. Has the right 2YO Guineas race entries and think he can give Gosden a right good hand going into the spring.
August 24, 2018 at 09:17 #1364096Any word of him running again soon Kev?
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!August 24, 2018 at 12:12 #1364121Solario (1st Sept) is his target mate.
August 28, 2018 at 00:17 #1364797King Of Comedy is swerving the Solario and Too Darn Hot is favourite for the race for the Gosden stable.
Someone told me a week ago that King Of Comedy was likely to run in the Champagne Stakes at Doncaster but he wasn’t 100% sure.
I’d start getting a bit worried about King Of Comedy if we don’t see him soon, as this is entering the area of the season when you want to see them again.
I haven’t been happy with the way Quorto’s form has been working out. For a horse with a rating of 114, it is unsettling to see 16 runs and zero wins from his two wins.
Ten Sovereigns made a terrific start but the sires runners thus far have not been progressing with their races.
Anthony Van Dyck lacks the pace for a Guineas to my eyes and is a silly price.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
August 28, 2018 at 09:00 #1364814Quorto + Anthony Van Dyck wouldn’t worry me too much.
Quorto beat a poor enough field, but he did it in a very decent manner and that’s what counts for me. If we see him once more this year i’d expect him to confirm he’s a very decent customer.
Anthony Van Dyck didn’t set the world alight on Sunday as he looked quite lazy. However, in doing so he showed a good attitude when it matter, and a mile is what he wants. Saxon Warrior was a miler at this stage so i still hold hope he’ll show up in the 2000G.
Agree i’d like to see King Of Comedy soon- as he was very taking + hope there isn’t an injury.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!August 29, 2018 at 14:40 #1364914Simon Rowland’s ATR article might be of interest to you.
http://www.attheraces.com/blogs/sectional-spotlight
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!August 29, 2018 at 18:46 #1364945Ten Sovereigns certainly looks a top class 2 year old in the making. By sprinter No Nay Never out of a dam Seeking Solace who although was second in a 1m3f listed event was by sprinter Exceed And Excel and out of Flamelet who was head second in the 2003 Derrinstown (Group 3) 1m Guineas Trial. Flamelet was by Theatrical, which is where Seeking Solace‘s stamina probably comes from. Theatrical a close second in the Irish Derby to Law Society and Breeders Cup Turf to Manila. However, Seeking Solace probably stayed further than would’ve been the case had she not been lazy. Flamelet‘s dam Darling Flame dead heated for second in the (Group 3) 6f Cherry Hinton at two and looked best at up to 7f; winning a Redcar Conditions race. Both top lines of sire and dam are packed full of speed. Sire top line of No Nay Never, Scat Daddy, Johannesburg, Hennessey, Storm Cat, Storm Bird. No Nay Never also inbred to speed influence Mr Prospector. Dam’s top line of Exceed And Excel, Danehill, Danzig, Northern Dancer. Three of Seeking Solace’s four great grand-sires are by Northern Dancer.
Apart from Seeking Solace and Theatrical there’s a lot of speed in the pedigree and Ten Soveriegns will need to settle really well in order to stay a mile at three. imo Possibly more one for the Commonwealth Cup.Value Is EverythingAugust 29, 2018 at 19:53 #1364952I agree, Steve; he looks more a Derby horse.
Team Coolmore will keep their options open, particularly with what happened to Saxon Warrior this Spring. Can see AVD possibly winning the Racing Post Trophy (although there are good uk rivals for that this year) but not the Guineas.
Value Is EverythingAugust 31, 2018 at 16:09 #1365882Oh, oh, Spaghettio.
Ten Sovereigns is out again tomorrow in the Round Tower Stakes at the Curragh. That seems early enough to be hitting the track again.
A bigger worry for me is that O’Brien says the Middle Park is target for the colt longer term.
I pointed out last year that the Middle Park is an awful guide to the Guineas and US Navy Flag became the latest colt to win the Middle Park but fail in the Guineas.
That has to be a worry for me on his Guineas chances and the bulk of his entries are at 6F.
That in mind, I have backed him at 16/1 for the Commonealth Cup instead. That will surely collapse if he wins tomorrow.
Commonwealth Cup Ten Sovereigns 16/1
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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