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- April 19, 2018 at 20:15 #1351157
Thanks Nathan

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 19, 2018 at 20:50 #1351162If you made the post at the same time last year MoM id have had the same response, im not slating anyone you may very well be correct, but theres no factual evidence to suggest that gustav klimt, saxon warrior, elarqaam etc etc wont be top drawe milers, not yet anyway
End of season you could be right. As of now, your just assuming..
April 19, 2018 at 22:07 #1351170Oh don’t get me wrong Ham I hope I am wrong.
I’m only going by the two year old seasons of course and the early signs of this season. I know you aren’t slating me.
It’s a game of opinions innit. My early thoughts are that, like last year, this will prove to be a below average crop.
As you say, Gustav, Saxon Warrior and Elarqam could be pretty good though. I certainly believe that Saxon Warrior will be but I don’t think he will be a miler after the Guineas anyway.
I just want September to win the Oaks. I’m happy to be wrong about every single other thing on the flat this year if I can get her right.
April 19, 2018 at 22:42 #1351175I’ll be rooting for Expert Eye come Saturday afternoon but I won’t play at current odds of even money. I probably wont dip in if he drifts to around 2/1 either.
What I will be doing is waiting with my finger on the button if he wins on the snap or at least puts in a commanding performance and take the 9’s on offer Ante-post.
Hopefully 1. He gets the job done well and 2. I can nab a good price before it is cut in half.April 20, 2018 at 00:46 #1351185That will most probably be my angle for the race on Saturday too Chivers.
Though he’d have to be very impressive for me to back him for the Guineas. Most likely it’s a race to just watch on Saturday for the majority I’d imagine.
April 20, 2018 at 17:52 #1351260Saxon Warrior very weak for this now. Out to 14.0
April 20, 2018 at 17:57 #1351261Dante,botchy.
April 20, 2018 at 18:05 #1351262I read he’s being aimed at the Dante now Botchy. Only a twitter rumour mind.
April 20, 2018 at 19:24 #1351272Dante,botchy.
I read he’s being aimed at the Dante now Botchy. Only a twitter rumour mind.
Cheers guys, wasn’t going to back him, but makes sense.
April 20, 2018 at 21:54 #1351292Despite Aiden’s bluster that Saxon Warrior was coming along “Lovely” and “We’ve never thought he was short of pace” it’s looking bad and I doubt he’s going to run.
Gustav Klimt looks Aiden’s best chance and if Expert Eye blows out tomorrow I expect Gustav Klimt to be short.
This looks a pretty weak Guineas and it’s unusual that the Racing Post Trophy winner would be favourite most of the winter.
Masar looked good at times last season but he was beatable and he looked to have won a Craven where the odds-on favourite ran well below form. Gosden had said Roaring Lion was “Full of himself” prior to the race but it looked more like he was full of something else to me.
If Saxon Warrior isn’t to start in the Guineas it’s a bad sign for the Derby as well from my point of view and I am looking for something else for Epsom now. When there’s been a plan and it gets altered, I always smell a rat. You don’t suddenly need an extra two furlongs for a horse when a mile was allegedly no problem only a week ago.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
April 21, 2018 at 07:11 #1351350I might be barking up the wrong tree or just barking mad but with some of the over the winter fancied runners and Saxon Warrior looking unlikely to run maybe its the time to look further down the betting order.
If what John Gosden said during the Craven Meeting is correct in that when his colts run in a maiden 1st time out they are only about 80% fit and therefore if they win 1st time out they are very special, then what about “Without Parole” At 80% fit he was given a RPR of 92 when winning a 8f maiden at Newcastle. If he had been 100% fit he might have won by further and got a RPR of 115 (92/80*100=115).
There are negatives, what he beat that day have raced since achieving little and he is currently entered in a Yarmouth novices race in 3 days time where he will have to carry 9 stone 9lbs, a 7lb penalty. If he actually runs there then its only a week and a half to 2000 Guineas day. Why not run in the 2000 Guineas carrying 9 stone 0lbs instead?
Looking to the past, Golan only won a Chepstow 7f Maiden as a 2 year old receiving a RPR of 92 and then won the 2000 Guineas 1st time out.
April 21, 2018 at 07:50 #1351360This article suggests Saxon is still going.
https://blog.racebets.com/2018-newmarket-2000-1000-guineas-preview
April 21, 2018 at 08:41 #1351373The contradictions in reports from Willie O’Brien are umm…. contradicting
He’d give that Aidan Mullins a run for his moneyGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
April 21, 2018 at 08:48 #1351375Most of the comments from that where quotes from last month, youd presume this was before amedeos injury
April 21, 2018 at 10:26 #1351405Amedeo getting injured changes nothing with Saxon Warrior, Guineas is the best trial as AOB says time and time again. Last time he sent his Derby horse to the Dante?
This rumour was started by a someone who Twitter will know likes to stir with crap whispers.
I would half understand all this panic if he was being laid for decent sums but it’s someone laying him a score.
April 21, 2018 at 10:39 #1351409not saying he isnt going kev, not saying hes going to the dante either, just giving reason for the drift, rumour or not thats what caused it, but its a little more than score, its actually alot more than a score and when a horse doubles in price, being laid in small increments like SW is, it definitely points to a negative of some sort, doesnt necessarily mean hes not running, but it definitrly points to something negative.
April 21, 2018 at 13:24 #1351469Expert Eye is very weak in the Greenham, out to 15/8 and that seems a hell of a price for one of the last real potential players for the Guineas.
Stable form is poor though, with not one place from ten runners over the past fortnight. Hey Gaman seems the one for money into as low as 5/2.
Is there a pop coming on?
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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