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Boz how you think your horse do tomorrow.
And you hope for a derby thread so you got eye on
Should CASCADIAN be mention as 2000 guineas horse won well in France no idea what plans for him.
We’re at the stage of the season now Darren where each select run counts for so much. Defeat for my Gustav Klimt tomorrow in what doesn’t look the strongest group 2 would most likely see him forgotten about for next May. I’m confident in what I’ve seen from this lad though that once Ryan puts the burners on, he should have this lot beat by a good couple of lengths. The in form Appleby yard do concern me slightly but realistically I know what I’ve backed and class should win the day. Then what price will he be for next year?
I’ll be hoovering up the last of 365’s very generous before he does though 
We’re at the stage of the season now Darren where each select run counts for so much. Defeat for my Gustav Klimt tomorrow in what doesn’t look the strongest group 2 would most likely see him forgotten about for next May. I’m confident in what I’ve seen from this lad though that once Ryan puts the burners on, he should have this lot beat by a good couple of lengths. The in form Appleby yard do concern me slightly but realistically I know what I’ve backed and class should win the day. Then what price will he be for next year?
I’ll be hoovering up the last of 365’s very generous before he does though I backed Gustav Klimt at 33/1 in the belief that if he won his next start in Group company he could be 8/1 for the Guineas due to the lack of a star at this stage.
Looking at the Superlative Stakes, Aqabah has the highest RPR on 103 but looks vulnerable to improvers. Gustav Klimt needs to come forward from his RPR of 90 but should be a shoo-in to do so.
Odds of 6/4 were too skinny for me with a couple of other improving types in the mix and for value here I went with Great Prospector at 16/1. Just 1 lb behind Gustav Klimt on RPR, Great Prospector has only had the one start and he impressed me that day, readily coming away to win 2 lengths. A couple of winners have come out of that race and the Fahey colt can step up further for the extra furlong and outrun his mildly insulting 2 star rating from Timeform on ATR.
Superlative Stakes Great Prospector 16/1
Obviously I’ll be happy to see Gustav Klimt win well and go Guineas Fav.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Bet365 are playing a dangerous game. They’re laying and laying and not buckling from 20/1.
When Aidan says “listen” I’m not sure they’re paying attention. Big day tomorrow fellas…..
I must admit when watching the video of Gustav Klimt’s win last time out although he won well he didn’t blow me away as an absolute superstar. But then again I’m tired of saying an Aidan O Brien horse is too short and then they end up winning anyway, betting against him doesn’t tend to be a profitable business.
Steve though has pinpointed this Great prospector horse for a while so I’d be inclined to go with his judgement here and say that would be the value in the race.
Well there you have it, 20/1 for the Guineas winner is but a not so distant memory. Bet365 have acted and cut him to 16s. They stood their ground fair play, reminiscent of a young Danny Williams doing his best impression of a punchbag against Wladimir Klitschko. I can almost hear the Richard Hoiles rant now……
“Pat Cooney, John Coates, Ray Winstone, your boys took one HELL of a beating……”
Richard Fahey sounded quite upbeat about Great Prospector, he seemed surprised that winners had come from the maiden he won, hinting that he thought his fellow had more to come yet. The trainer stated that the 7th furlong should suit.
Gustav Klimt didn’t look fully wound up last time. There was still plenty to work on. It was the way he picked up and finished strongly that struck me. He took a good while to pull up that day and he should get a mile easily. Just too short to back today though, hence the Fahey horse being the speculation today.
Long term I am not sure for the Fahey colt, as he is already knocking onto being the best his father has sired.
My bigger bet is on the Guineas and Gustav Klimt but if he doesn’t deliver today the Fahey horse winning will more than cover that.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Unbelievable. Horses don’t usually win races when that happens.
5/1 for the Guineas with the red team. 6/1 in the blue corner.
I was very pleased by Great Prospector’s run. Slowly away, he finished well and has probably now become his sire’s best progeny already.
Most people didn’t give him any hope today but he’s run a cracker beaten just a head and half a length. Coventry horse Aqabah was torn a new one by the Fahey colt.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Brother Bear might stand a chance if they switch the Guineas to Chester. Are his right legs longer than his left?
Brother Bear might stand a chance if they switch the Guineas to Chester. Are his right legs longer than his left?
Poor effort from Brother Bear today. That Coventry isn’t stacking up very well. There have been four winners from the race but nothing worth a hill of beans.
Winner, 3rd, 4th and 5th have all been beaten next time. Aqabah was also stuffed out of sight in the Superlative today.
That Guineas betting market is saturated with dross.
The Pentagon was stuffed behind Verbal Dexterity on debut but won by 8 and a half lengths today. At 33/1, there are loads of no-hopers who look a lot worse options.
The Pentagon:-
http://www.attheraces.com/racecard/Curragh/15-July-2017/1510
This son of Galileo may not have beaten much but he galloped them into the ground and looks a beast.
A bit of cover at 33/1 for me. Pentagon surely ran to something like 100 there.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
The Pentagon does have a stamina-packed pedigree and was ridden by Ana yesterday, suggesting the win caught Ballydoyle by surprise as much as the rest of us!
I expect he’ll be involved in the Criterium de Saint-Cloud at the end of the season en route to 1m 4f races next year. Hard to say whether he is Derby class at this point but he looks as likely a runner as any.
The excellent Dan Briden made an interesting point on Twitter yesterday. Two of Gustav Klimt‘s siblings palpably failed to train-on from 2 to 3. Does that worry any Gus backers?
He has 4 full siblings:
Mars who did train on (although his only run as a 2yo was a Dundalk maiden win)
Toscanelli who just wasn’t any good.
Cuff who looked as if she could be very good, but was injured in the Albany and never raced again.
And Wonderfully, who reached a certain level of form as a 2yo and achieved nothing as a 3yo.So yes, maybe one sibling who didn’t train on,
I’ll be hoovering up the last of 365’s very generous before he does though 
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