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Clemmie is Galileo’s only Group 1 winner ever over 6 furlongs. I found that quite interesting
That’s a very crucial point Ginger, Clemmie is indeed no ordinary filly!
Obviously many here don’t realize that and only see her as “hyped” or “short-priced”, but they will learn to know better in 27 days
!Jeepers. Some people on the forum have 33/1 on Clemmie, yet 3/1 is great value.
No doubt there is value in the second favourite as well and maybe a saver on the 3rd Fav may just be worthwhile.
How did that Cert Blue Point get on a Meydan again?
Just wondering if there is any value in Saxon Warrior at 20/1 and 16/1 for the 2000 Guineas? Similarly is there value in Saxon Warrior for the Derby at 33/1? Or am I better waiting for the 3/1, when he will surely be great value?
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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3/1 is indeed very good value for a filly of her class!
And it doesn’t make too much sense to mention Blue Point, to say the least, as he didn’t even get a chance to run and therefore couldn’t win, as anybody else knows.
Clemmie is Galileo’s only Group 1 winner ever over 6 furlongs. I found that quite interesting
People keep making a big deal about this, but in reality only her and Alice Springs (4th in the same race) have tried. Given the class many of his fillies have, I would back plenty of them to win a G1 over 6f.
Hey, every factor has to be taken into an ante-post bet. Not least that the horse may not run.
This is a thread about ante post betting. Why start speculating early if you want to wait to the day and back the favourite?
Tipping Aidan O’Brien horses on the day is like shooting fish in a bucket. Any Tom, Harry or Dick can stuff a Coolmore horse up and go
after it wins.Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
I wouldn’t be mad about taking 3/1 on Clemmie considering she’s not going to have a run between now and the 1000G.
There’s every chance she can win, but O’Brien has a pretty good record with his bigger priced runners in this.
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The one I really like is September. She was the best horse in both the G1s she ran in at the end of last season, the only worry with her is the ground as she needs it fast. She should have a run before, too, which is obviously a big bonus for AOB fillies.
I’ve taken 40/1 for her to win this and the Oaks.
now i for one minute am not saying that Clemmie is not a very decent filly, but with her not having a prep, going up two furlongs (yep I know she is a full sister to Churchill) and with all this wet weather showing no sign of stopping(again yes I know HQ dries quickly) at this moment in time,I could be wrong (normally am) 3/1 does not look a great price. Good luck with the bet, I had a few shillings on September(EW) and am already slightly concerned with this wet stuff
Betting fillies FTO, especially AOB ones, is a sure fire way to the poor house 99% of the time.
Now I’m not saying that Clemmie wont win, she looks very good, but it’s something that puts me off her straight away.
Especially at 3s, which IMO is skinny for a horse that has thus far only ran at sprint distances.I don’t have a particular fancy but my eye will be firmly on Veracious when/if she trials.
You are probably right about those risks, NWalton.
I certainly don’t agree with O’Brien’s “strategy”, he should better give her a prep race over the trip, but I hope she can win nevertheless through her excellence.
The weather is the second if, it would be fine when all the clouds over Newmarket would empty a couple of days before the race..I actually researched the distances run as 2YO’s to offer encouragement that the 6F maximum in the first season need not be an impasse to Guineas glory at three.
The stats are what they are, if people want to declare they have no relevance then so be it. It reeks of hubris though.
Two more meetings abandoned today and soft ground throws up more surprises in general than any other factor.
Clemmie is in the Oaks betting but it’s a big ask for a filly who ran over 6F only at two, to then excel in an Oaks at double the distance. In Minding’s year, she was 8/1 for the Guineas/Oaks double and I invested in that bet. Clemmie though, is 20/1 just for the Oaks so there’s a general acceptance that she doesn’t have the assured stamina and that could easily become a concern if it is testing on Guineas day.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Any money for Clemmie in the Oaks would be pointless really wouldn’t it when we already know September is O’Briens winner for Epsom.
Degaussed – Where is that 40s on the double offer please?
As everyone knows, I am all over her for epsom but I’d be raging with myself if she won this instead. 40/1 looks huge – though I fear the Newmarket ground may go against her.
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