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    Added a Fiver on Intricately @ 26’s on BF. If he was trained by his Dad probably 12’s at best.

    #1277027
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    RHODODENDRON for me i hope her and Churchill give me nice ante post winners here.

    I miss the flat but i do love the jumps to

    #1289546
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    SEA OF GRACE been backed today horse now at Haggas after Oxx lost those horses from same owner.

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    SEA OF GRACE been backed today horse now at Haggas after Oxx lost those horses from same owner.

    I got good tune out of Sea Of Grace last year Darren. I think she is going to be a progressive filly.

    John Oxx has been in the doldrums for ages now and you can understand owners looking for better results. William Haggas gets a tremendous amount of winners but it has to be said that he rarely visits the top table. It’s all very well winning endless five grand maiden races but when the horses involved are costing 100’s of thousand of pounds it’s hardly stellar achievement and William Haggas should be sending out group 1 winners every now and then with the quality of horse he is being handed every year, for a good number of years now.

    Sea Of Grace is in my list of 20 3yos to follow this season and I wish her well, she was really gutsy for me on one occasion last year.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Very impressive win by RHODODENDRON got her at 20/1 now fav for 1000 guineas

    And DABYAH ran a decent race in France i feel she need softer ground i do

    Botchy bets look good

    Darren, certainly does. Dabyah looks the big danger to me, she’s very good as well i think. . ;-)

    Had a few bets over the winter on Dabyah to win this race. Possible talk of a trip to the French Guineas also, so looking a bit 50-50 at the moment she runs here.

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    Wuheidha will miss the Guineas due to injury. It sound like the Oaks is probably off the agenda as well, because they are talking in terms of a possible second half of the season campaign.

    Hard lines anyone who had her ante-post, she looked highly promising.

    Wuheidha suffered a stress fracture in her right hind leg.

    I still have hopes for Fair Eva stepped up to the mile. She is reorted to have grown and thickened out. The Lowther was a mistake in my opinion. the jockey had warned that she needed stepping up.

    Rhododendron is too short for me but good luck those who got her at bigger odds last year.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Bad luck to Wuheidha backers.The Godolphin curse strikes again with another top notch Classic hopeful missing out.

    “The recuperation period is six to eight weeks, so she misses some important races.”

    Hopefully she comes back to prove what a good Filly she is at some point in the future.

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    Decided to play safe with my RHODODENDRON and laid off my stake @ 3’s which leaves me with an overall free win bet @ 15/1

    3/1 looks a really skinny price with 3 weeks to go. Hopefully the Gosden horse comes in a bit after her trial. :good:

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    Very impressive win by RHODODENDRON got her at 20/1 now fav for 1000 guineas

    And DABYAH ran a decent race in France i feel she need softer ground i do

    Botchy bets look good

    Darren, certainly does. Dabyah looks the big danger to me, she’s very good as well i think. . ;-)

    Had a few bets over the winter on Dabyah to win this race. Possible talk of a trip to the French Guineas also, so looking a bit 50-50 at the moment she runs here.

    Managed to lay off my Dabyah stake at between 10.5 & 9.4 for a free bet.

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    Dabyah is 4/1 JF for the French Guineas but I am all over Senga at the same odds for that race. Home advantage and her comeback win was impressive. She’s a filly with scope and she had no luck when just behind Dabyah in the Boussac last season. Senga looks a beast this season and I readily prefer her this year. I feel Pascal Bary’s filly can land the Guineas and Oaks in France this year.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Yes, Dabyah will most likely be heading to the French Guineas given she has form on a softer surface and has already run well in Franch whilst Daban has Newmarket form.

    I think that’s a shame as if I was in Mr Al Naboodah’s shoes I would want to run both at Newmarket to have the best chance of winning a Classic.

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    I’ve had a bet on Senga, just in case Pascal Bary sees sense and takes her over for a very winnable Guineas.

    20/1 is way too big for a filly who has a win under her belt and the scope to come on again.

    If you watch the Prix Marcel Boussac from last season, you will see that the fillies who finish 1-2-3 all have good positions to the fore. Wuheida, Promise To Be True and Dabyah all have excellent spots to strike from, while Senga is right at the back. With 300 metres to travel Senga finally gets some room and sets off in pursuit but it’s too late and she can only close to the heels of the third horse as they hit the line. I feel she must have made up something like eight lengths on them in the closing stages.

    http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/race-replays/2/2376/

    Senga has wintered well and I believe she will be close to the best fillies in Europe this year.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Think the trials were poor and would be amazed if anything comes out of the Nell Gywn or Fred Darling threatens the judge in the guineas.

    Still optimistic that Talaayeb could provide an upset. Apparently her form isn’t great but she’s closely tied in with Neshmeya who has form with the fav for the oaks, shutter speed. I know she was beaten further behind that one but I have a theory that she didn’t completely get home that day/handle the ground.

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    According to an interview with Roger Charlton it sounds like James Doyle will be reuniting with him and Juddmonte to ride Fair Eva

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    According to an interview with Roger Charlton it sounds like James Doyle will be reuniting with him and Juddmonte to ride Fair Eva

    With Charlton currently on a 29% strike rate and having run some promising fillies recently, you would think Fair Eva should go close in the 1000 Guineas. The Lowther looked a bad decision and I think that with a winter behind her and coming here fresh to tackle the mile, there is a good chance Fair Eva can blitz them in the closing stages.

    An off-putting stat for Talaayeb is Owen Burrows not having sent a winner out since 2nd November. I like to see them in form and with the Guineas only 12 days away, the filly will go there without a run and I can recall few Guineas winners landing the race on their second start following a maiden win.

    I feel Rhododendron is a wafer thin price here and she won’t carry my money but good luck to everyone who caught her at the bigger prices last season.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Yeah I might end up backing Fair Eva. Not convinced about the O’Brien fillies.

    I can see Fair Eva been well punted on the day.

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    I am the King of getting trainers into form. No sooner did I mention Owen Burrows not having a winner since November 2nd, and, what seemed a micro second later, he scoots a winner in.

    These out of form trainers should be asking me to point out their bad run. ;-)

    It’s seems as sound a system as any to follow.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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