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Of this poor lot only Ed Davey calls it out as it is by regularly thrashing Trumpety Trump. He the ony one who is neither a woman nor a gelding.
If you vote for a party just because that party has said it will hurt someone you don’t like it always backfires. In America the vast majority of farmers voted for Trump as they wanted these ‘nasty’ immigrants eliminated. Then they woke up one day and found there was nobody to pick their crops. It will be the same in the UK if Reform get in. They will phone their doctor only to find their practice has closed down to a shortage of staff. So they will head off to their local A&E, to find the hospital has been privatised and it now costs £250 per visit. When they complain they have no money they will be told it was their fault in they didn’t have any insurance. You know Farage is a great friend of Trump. So now we are like America; you’ve got what you voted for!
” I am working class and have always voted Labour but I am deserting them because they no longer support us. So I am now going to vote Reform.”
They (Reform) will look after me by eliminating my human rights through ignoring International Law. The will help my employment prospects by abolishing the Employment Protection Act. Finally, if I need help they will reduce my income because they will vastly reduce benefits.
I am lucky my health is good because when Reform have spent £2 billion of setting up an ICE type agency to eliminate immigrants we will no longer have doctors nor the NHS.
My name is Turkey Brainless and I am looking forward to Christmas. It is so sad because those voting Reform will be the first ones to feel the pain.
Moehat writes a lot of sense. There is only one thing I would disagree with though. In normal circumstances I would agree that diplomacy is needed, but not in the case of Trump. He thinks he is God and writes abusive comments about the Pope saying the church leader should stop praying for peace and instead follow him.
Starmer’s diplomacy with Trump hasn’t got the UK anywhere. The moron is atill outrageously suing the BBC for $5 billion.
The only way to deal with Trump is to take him on head to head as Mark Carney of Canada has done. So I fully support Ed Davey for blasting the self acclaimed messiah in the House of Commons.
It is about time we stopped moaning about the past and based on what is currently happening.
So lets see where were are:The Conservatives big mistake was Brexit and electing a halfwit who took the party from centre right to far right. Which is why many of them defected to Reform.
The LibDems biggest mistake was to campaign to cut tuition fees and in government with the Tories agreed to treble them.
Lwbour’s biggest mistake was to elect someone: without any charisma to be their leader who is afraid to put the truth above pragmatism.
At the moment the Libdems have the only leader who tells it as it is that Trump is a moron who is systematically ruining thr world.
For the record, I find your posts and wilts posts to be right wing. Always whinging about benefits and deriding those with liberal views. We know that Reform are far right wing as they prefer the law of the jungle to International Law. They clearly support the likes of the USA, Israel and Russia, all countries that ignore International Law.
What I find laughable is that the Far Right Wing mob, that being Reform et al, are terrified of the Greens. Presumably that is because they won the Manchester by-election. All the nonsense they write on this board is pathetic!
Back to Starmer; we at least have a Prime Minister who is meeting like minded leaders to resolve the major nightmare that Trump has put us all in.
The reality is that Israel/USA started this war stupidly thinking they could achieve their objectives in days. But with China and Russia supporting Iran they have no chance of victory. I would not like to see our King go to America if the war was still on. Equally I cannot see how the USA can hold the World Cup while being in the middle of a war. Trump will have to recognise that he will lose face and get out the best he can.
Wilts, it is much simpler to delete their messages.
In the news today I read that ICE has arrested an 89 year old woman putting her in handcuffs and leg irons. Do they really believe that an 89 year old can escape that easily? If Reform win we will have this in the UK having spent £2 billion of taxpayers money to set up an ICE type agency. Is this what we want in the UK?
For those on this forum who don’t know the difference between local elections and a general election, i can assure everyone that Starmer will not be toast in May, regardless of the result.
I keep getting unbelievable ‘boost’ offers. The latest one was ‘Manchester United to score in the first half (against Leeds) EVENS – was 4/7.’ Just click here to bet!
They seem to think the days of the punter betting on what he/she wanted to bet on are over. Now it is all about advertising and getting the sad punter to bet on something their experts think will lose. Surely they wiii fall for ‘evens’ when it was 4/7?
Daily, I am invited to bet £5 or more on an ACCA and get another ACCA for free.
You cannot even reply to tell them they are wasting their time.
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Quite right; I too have lost my winter fuel allowance. As I keep saying, all genuine benefits are means tested.
Received a letter in the post today from Nigel Farage begging me to back Reform. In bold was ‘we will get rid of illegal immigrants’ and -‘we will keep the triple lock’ the latter no doubt to suck up to pensioners. Regarding illegal immigrants there was no mention of their proposal to spend £2 billion setting up an ICE type agency. Nor was there any mention of having to ignore International law to achieve their aim, meaning we all lose our human rights.
The worry is that they are being sponsored by billionaires so they can afford to send a letter to every voter in the country. Money spent now should be included in the limit each party can spend on electioneering.
Starmer has rightly refused to support Trump’s blockade. The Conservatives and Reform would have supported this illegal law (as they both ignore International Law) in the first place. Would they now support America’s blockade?
I think it was Harold Wilson who said, “A week is a long time in politics.” Well 2 years+ is an even longer tine! By then Trump will be history and everyone will know all his policies have been a disaster. Given that Farage and Reform spend their time monitoring Trump’s backside, everyone will know Reform’s policies would be disastrous for this country.
I would not count your chickens!
I have followed racing for over 50 years and believe one rule should be modified. Jockeys are told they must ride for the best possible place. I would modify that to add: ‘unless it is clear the horse has no more to give’
Several years ago I had a share in a 2yo filly. We were told by the trainer that she was one of the better ones. Her first race was at Beverley and she was drawn on the rails, a very favourable draw when the going is good. But the going was heavy, so her draw was the worst draw in these conditions. She came out well but struggled in the heavy going. The jockey hit her with the whip and she tried to quicken, but it was obvious she had no more to give. But her jockey hit her at least another twice as she faded.
Every race after that she stopped abruptly just outside the furlong marker, obviously remembering the treatment she received in her first race. She never won a race, but one of her offsprings did.
These days most jockeys are better trained and are more considerate, but the message must be rammed home. The horse is more important than the punters.
Drone, I agree that legally the state pension is classified as a benefit and is included in the total benefit figures. But I think this is utter nonsense. I have a atate pension, having being contracted in for 50 years and don’t regard what I get as a benefit.
I regard Trump as a complete ignorant moron, but legally he cannot be as he is President of the USA (at the time of writing anyway). The law is sometimes an ‘ass’ as it is regarding some human rights legislation. What separates me from Farage et al is that I believe we should support the law even when we don’t like it. Once you ignore the law you have utter chaos, as we have now with Trump just doing what Trump wants.
I really cannot understand how the right still believe state pensions are a benefit. The anount you receive is not universal (everyone gets paid the same) but is based on how many years of contributions each individual has made.
If you save in a private scheme and draw a pension you are not receiving a benefit. State pensions are just the same.
There will always be those who believe anything ‘public’ is evil while anything ‘private’ is fine. Such a belief is irrational; there is good and bad in both. Neither are perfect.
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