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I really cannot understand how the right still believe state pensions are a benefit. The anount you receive is not universal (everyone gets paid the same) but is based on how many years of contributions each individual has made.
If you save in a private scheme and draw a pension you are not receiving a benefit. State pensions are just the same.
There will always be those who believe anything ‘public’ is evil while anything ‘private’ is fine. Such a belief is irrational; there is good and bad in both. Neither are perfect.
Not in my opinion.
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysThe State Pension was legally termed a benefit in the Pension Act 2014
A petition moaning about this was presented to parliament in 2016
The paltry 14,681 signatures indicates that only a small minority choose to obsess about the word benefit, which is really just a convenient catch-all term to describe payments made by government to individuals.
Drone, I agree that legally the state pension is classified as a benefit and is included in the total benefit figures. But I think this is utter nonsense. I have a atate pension, having being contracted in for 50 years and don’t regard what I get as a benefit.
I regard Trump as a complete ignorant moron, but legally he cannot be as he is President of the USA (at the time of writing anyway). The law is sometimes an ‘ass’ as it is regarding some human rights legislation. What separates me from Farage et al is that I believe we should support the law even when we don’t like it. Once you ignore the law you have utter chaos, as we have now with Trump just doing what Trump wants.
“The State Pension was legally termed a benefit in the Pension Act 2014”
Really?!
Going back to my work days (in Fin Servs) we always ‘referred’ back to the 1946 National Insurance Act, when it was legally defined as a benefit.
I stand to be corrected if i’m talking rubbish.
I’m sure you’re correct, I wasn’t saying it was a new definition in 2014, just the one in current law as I believe new acts supercede the laws enacted in previous acts.
There was also the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 in which the state pension was also declared to be a benefit, or to give the full definition: a Social Security Contributory Benefit.
It’s all just semantics really and the reason some don’t like the word benefit is the pejorative connotation it’s unjustly earnt to mean government handouts to the workshy and feckless.
Enjoy your imminent triple-locked Social Security Contributory Benefit Wilts, I’m enjoying mine while I can, it’s too good to last.
I’m not a lawyer, just an incessant googler
More than half of Keir Starmer’s Cabinet ministers would lose their seats if a general election was held today, a new poll has found.
The More in Common survey found 16 out of the 22 Labour MPs who form the Prime Minister’s top team would be kicked out of the House of Commons.The MRP (Multilevel Regression with Post-stratification) poll was based on voting intention data from more than 15,000 Britons.
It projected that, overall, Reform would win 324 seats at a general election – putting Nigel Farage’s party far ahead of Labour (101 seats), the Tories (81), Liberal Democrats (62), SNP (26) and Greens (22).
Reform would be just shy of an overall majority, but with a few Tory backers they’d likely form the next government.
Good job the election isn’t being held today, then. There’s still plenty of time for people to (hopefully) come to their senses and realise how truly disastrous a Reform government would be.
I agree with moehat that it’s good news that Orban has lost in Hungary: hopefully, that’ll lead to a long line of “strongman” dominoes falling, although I fear that all that will happen is so-called “believers in democracy” further fixing the rules so that a similar fate does not befall them.
I wonder if JD Vance’s visit to Budapest last week was actually a negative to the Hungarian electorate? Food for thought for Farage, who is permanently stuck up Trump’s backside, perhaps?
Good news that Orban’s gone though his replacement and his party doesn’t really represent a radical change, just a move from far-right to not-so-far right. Still, let’s be positive and wish him well.
I assumed that the name Peter Magyar was a nationalistic pseudonym as it translates as Peter Hungarian but no, the surname Magyar is common in Hungary.
Drone that was what the great Hungarian football side of the 50s were called who came over and spanked us at Wembley.
Think it was something like The Magical Magyars
The great Puskas was part of the sideWhat a great picture thanks Drone, when they came to Wembley it was just before I was born but the old man told me about them and how magical it was to watch them play
Yep, my father banged-on about them too; them and the Matthews/Mortensen FA Cup Final. Two historic games, both in 1953.
Googling away I’ve discovered – or had my memory jogged – that a year later after Hungary’s 6-3 defeat of England at Wembley they again thrashed them 7-1 back in Budapest.
Are Hungary any good now and have they qualified for the forthcoming world cup?
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