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What Would Happen If The Right Won The Next GE?

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    nwalton
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    :wacko: :wacko: gladders in denial about Dave, we might be so called nut jobs in your funny little world but get a grip mate the man is a fruitcake who will lose his Muslim friends with his on stage antics,
    No problem watching this all iunfold
    Rampton inmate signing out :good: ;-)

    #1762723
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    You’re the only one living in denial, mate. B-)

    Well, not the only one – all the other RWNJ are in the same boat, denying that Brexit, Bozo, Truss and Trump have all been incredibly damaging for the country and the economy.

    #1762787
    nwalton
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    One day glad you will realise Dave is a conman and clueless , even more so than my mate Nigel and all of the labour front bench
    Hopefully you will wake up soon enough, but maybe you can’t wait to get your hands on the crack which no doubt Dave will be giving away for free every third wednesday of the month :whistle:

    #1762797
    value31
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    It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant the ‘right’ really are. Wilts takes the biscuit!

    “Plus make all benefits means tested”
    They already are!

    ‘Close defined public sector pwnsion schemes’
    Obviously Wilts does not know that these schemes do not cost the government a single penny apart from the employer’s share of the contributions. Employees pay a higher percentage of their salaries in contributions than private sector employees to fund their pension.

    Then we get others saying they will vote Reform just to get rid of the boat people. They don’t seem to understand that this can only be done quickly if £2 billion (Reform’s figures) is spent on setting up an ICE type agency and taking away ALL our human rights.

    Reform and the Conservatives drone on about cutting benefits. The question is where? The largest benefit cost in total is the state pension. But having paid money in for 50 years I don’t regard this as a benefit.

    Then they must remember they are like turkeys voting for Christmas. Like the American farmers who voted for Trump and are now bankrupt. Will they ever learn?

    #1762815
    nwalton
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    Must put ignorant on my rwnj bingo card thanks value :good:

    Off to watch fury weigh so good night comrades,keep the red flag flying high, or is it green?
    Or red white black and green or is that just the Saturday peace :wacko: March flag

    #1762816
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    Who is Dave?

    #1762817
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    Dont call me “ignorant”

    All benefits are NOT means tested.

    Public sector pensions are underwritten by the UK taxpayer, so there is no risk for the employees.

    Employer contributions to the NHS scheme, local government pension schemes are super-generous, at 20% plus. When an NHS trust has to fund staff salary increases they also hae to fund increased levels of pesion contributions.
    Local council tax payers part fund local government schemes, some councils effectively take c20% from every CT payers monthly payment to help fund the employees’ pensions.

    My politics has always been to the Right. Socialists like to spend other people’s money.

    #1762819
    nwalton
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    Zack’s real name Drone, up there with Tommy Robinson ;-)

    #1762821
    nwalton
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    Value are you an antifa member if so why do you all wear face masks? Bit like mexican wrestlers
    Ry mysterio was my favourite

    #1762840
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    “the crack which no doubt Dave will be giving away for free every third wednesday of the month”

    Yeah – because giving everyone free crack is the actual policy.

    Jesus wept. :wacko:

    “My politics has always been to the Right”

    Yet oh so wrong. :whistle:

    #1762850
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    Zack’s real name Drone

    Thanks, having now looked him up I see he was christened David Paulden but changed his surname to Polanski which was that of his Jewish ancestors who escaped Nazi Germany.

    Zack was chosen from a Jewish character in a book, which does seem a little unnecessary, but harmless enough and of no consequence.

    I also couldn’t really give a toss if Stephen Yaxley-Lennon chooses to call himself Tommy Robinson, though that choice does have undercurrents of a wish to get-on-down with the proletariat.

    #1762854
    nwalton
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    I was pointing out Drone that TR is always given his real name by media so why not Dave
    Sorry if I didn’t point out better what I was getting at,my excuse I’m a rwnj. Sorry had to get that in Gladders :heart:

    On the free crack, never say never mate we have had the one in one out policy which must have been thought out by someone on crack

    #1763279
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    “Evidence, please. Show me one example of where I didn’t accept it.”

    Still waiting, @Red-Rum-77

    Yawn

    #1763286
    value31
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    Wilts, the way you go on you must believe that anyone working in the public sector does not pay taxes!

    You are obviously brought up to beiieve that ‘socialism’ is bad (American propaganda) without knowing what it means. Put simply, socialists believe that working together and helping each other gets a better result than having a dog eats dog attitude. The proof of the pudding is the fact that China is light years ahead of the USA.

    You must not get jealous believing that grass is always greener on the otber side of the street.

    #1763293
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    Three words: universal, basic and income. Lots of capacity released for stringent means testing and medical assessment of those who require more.

    #1763321
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    Even “universal” basic income would have to be means tested. There are approximately 55 million people aged 16 or over in the UK, so a reasonable UBI of, say, £1,000 per month would be ridiculously expensive.

    Why should those with assets and/or savings be paid this money by the state? UBI should be for those who really need it, just like the state pension.

    #1763323
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    The Benefits bill for 25/26, including the state pension, is around £334 billion which is 23% of all government spending. Dividing that by 55 million leaves £6072.

    So if a UBI of around £500 per month were introduced tomorrow it would cost no more than the current benefits bill.

    Woefully over-simplified back-of-fag-packet calculation I’m sure, but a bit of context perhaps.

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