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Thursday 2 July
ANY FAV
Going For Gold won 1st race 11/8
profit on day +£6.87profit/loss this year -£4,015.65
profit/loss since Jan 08 +£14,673.53ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Pengana won 1st race 4/11
profit/loss on day +£3.64
profit/loss this year +£183.78
profit/loss since jan 08 +£1,536.99*******************************************************88
Friday 3 JulyANY FAV
Bollin Greta won 1st race 2/1
profit on day +£10.00
profit/loss this year -£4,005.45
profit/loss since jan 08 +£14,683.53ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Silver Grecian won 1st race 4/11
profit on day +£3.64
profit/loss this year +£187.42
profit/loss ince jan 08 +£1,540.63*****************************************
Sat 4 July
ANY FAVItsher won 4th race evens
profit on day £5.00
profit/loss this year -£4,000.66
profit/loss since jan 08 +£14,688.53ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS[b
Strawbeerydaioiri won 4th race 6/5
profit on day £61.00
porfit/loss this year +£248.42
profit/loss since Jan 08 +£1,601..63This is why there really is no alternative to Betfair
just the 1st market I looked at at 9.19 am today
1st Test match
the draw
betfair £3,868.00 availbale at 1.62
betdaq £1,234.00 ‘ 1.62
wbx £ 55.00 ‘ 1.62So if you are strong on the draw and want any decent bet where does one go to?
I have paid the Premium charge on a number of occasions which is hardly worth mentioning compared to what others pay but I would rather pay that than lose to someone else.
I think it would be fair if they based the Premium charges over a 3 month period but they would take less money overall so that will never happen.
In his book Patrick Veitch who is clearly an exceptional gambler calculates he made 16.7% on turnover over recent years despite having to take under the rates in order to get enough money on.
He talks of Harry Findlay quoted as stating no punter on the Earth makes 8% on turnover.
Patrick Veitch from his book hardly uses the exchanges to maximise his profit but he has agents and sub agents placed around the counry to get his money on. Without resorting to those means there is no real alternative.
I agree the whole thing is a con and a bit like charging a drinker more because he drinks in your pub every day and therefore contributes more to your business than a once a year drinker.
Yesterday the Dikler in the Post reported that Spencer got pulled over by the cops as he looked like an under aged joyrider.
Spenecr insisted he was actually ‘ a top jockey’ the cop told Spencer he liked a bet and then asked for his name when he was told it was Jamie Spencer the cop apparently told him
‘Jamie Spencer! You’ve cost me a fortune! Here’s three points’
Van Morrison
‘takes his holidays down at the bookies
well he surely knows how to pick a horse’‘Lester Piggot won at 4/1’
According to someone who knows Ryan Moore very well he was approached by reps from Coolmore during the time Sir Michael Stoute was undecided as to who was going to be his stable jockey.
Once Sir M. Stoute leaned of this he quickly made his mind up to get Ryan to sign up on the dotted line.
Moore is happilly settled down in Suffolk with his partner and 1 year old son Toby so even if he lost the Stoute job I doubt if moving to Ireland would interest him much.
As for Frankie moving to Ireland again I think his settled family life would mean that he would be more likely to retire than accept any job with Coolmore.
If howver he did go those ‘flying dismounts’ would be a thing of the past!wed 1 july
lord samosin u/p
cape vale 2nd 4/1
royal envoy u/ploss on day £300.00
profit/loss to c/f +£1,486.86
Tues 30 June
melody in the mist 2nd 4/1
argentine 1st 5/1
perfecet class u/p
cheeky lad u/p
ignatief 3rd 2/1returns inc stakes
180.00
198.00
125.10
220.00
140.00
150.00profit on day £17.10
profit/loss to c/f +£1,768.86
Thurs 25 June
prince seigfried 3rd 7/2
lady jane digby 1st 2/1
peter island 3rd 9/2returns after stakes deducted
19.00
61.50
33.00profit on day £113.50
profit loss to c/f +£2,724.26
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Friday 26 June
no bets
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Sat 27 June
ashlawy u/p
bessie lou u/p
rucker 2nd 7/2loss on day £300.00
profit loss to c/f +£2,243.26
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Sun 28
Piste won 4/1
no bets
bank +£2,243.26*********************************
Mon 29 June
sairam u/p
pegasus lad u/p
decorum 2nd 11/4
ingatieff 3rd 2/1stake £600
1 win double profit £8.50
loss on day £491.50
profit/loss C/F + 1,751.76
Thurs 18 June
hawkridge king u/p
contract caterer 3/1 2nd
fongs alibi 15/8 1st
mispalced fortune 9/4 2nd
simple rhythm u/p10 bets stake £1,000.00
returns
110.00
116.00
98.31loss on day £675.69
profit/loss to c/f +£21.76
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Fri 19 June
uhijon 2nd 10/3
carbon footprint u/ploss on day £100.00
profit/loss to c/f -£78.24
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Sat 20 June
maison dieu 1st 3/1
sands crooner 1st 3/1
lahm albasser 1st 7/2stake £300.00
Returns with stake
928.00
1,036.00
1,036.00
£3000.00 total less stake £300.00
profit on day £2,700.00profit/loss to c/f +£2,621.76
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Sun 21 June
signora lady 1st 9/2
bullet man 2nd 7/2profit on day £61.50
profit/loss to c/f +£2,683.26
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Mon 22 June
Bramleberry 1st 7/2
Devil You Know 2nd 5/2profit on day £27.50
profit/loss to c/f +£2,710.76
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Tues 23 Juneno bets
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wed 24 june
dig deep u/p
almaydan 3rd 7/2loss day £100.00
profit/loss to c/f +£2,610.76
Wed 1 July
ANY FAV
Contract Caterer won 3rd race @2/5
loss on day £7.00porfit/loss this year -£4,022.52
profit/loss since jan 08 +£14,666.66ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Contract Dancer won 1st race 2/5
profit on day £4.00profit/loss this year +£180.14
profit /loss ince jan 08 +£1,533.25Sun 14 June
nolochoua u/p
mo other 8 runner races
no bet
bank +£1,897.45
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Mon 15 June
urban clubber u/p
mo mhurnin 1st 9/4
kings maiden u/p
irish saint u/ploss on day £600.00
bank +£697.45
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Tues 16 June
No bets
bank +£697.45
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Wed 17 June
no bets
bank remains +£697.45
Mon 29 June
ANY FAV
Sarasota Sunshine won 1st race 2/1
profit on day +£10.00porfit/loss this year -£4,018.18
profi/loss since jan 08 +£14,670.60ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Mal Dave won 3rd race 15/8
profit on day £45.00profit/loss this year +£170.81
porfit/loss ssince jan 08 +£1,523.92
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Tues 30 June
ANY FAV
Exgray won 1st race 8/15
profit on day £2.66profit loss this year -£1,015.52
profit/loss since jan 08 +£14,673.26
ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Exgray won 1st race 8/15
profit on day +£5.33profit/loss this year +£176.14
profit/loss since jan 08 +£1,529.25Sat 27 June
ANY FAV
Missionaire won 1st race 5/2
profit on day +£12.50profit/loss this year -£4,028.89
profit/loss since jan 08 +£14,659.89ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
All The Aces won 4th race @5/4
profit on day +£30.00profit/loss this year +£120.10
profit/loss since jan 08 +1,417.21***********************************************
Sun 28 June
ANY FAV
Lord Zenith won 2nd race 4/7
profit on day £0.71profit/loss this year -£4,028.18
profit/loss since jan 08 +£14,660.60ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Lord Zenith won 1st race @4/7
profit on day +£5.71profit this year +£1125.81
profit/loss since jan 08 +£1,478.92Thursday 25 June
ANY FAV
Silence Of The Wind won 2nd race @13/8
profit on day £11.25
profit/loss this year -£4,029.05
profit/loss since Jan 08 +£14,649.05ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Kaptain Kirkup won 2nd race 9/4
profit on day +£35.00profit this year +£123.78
profit/loss since jan 08 +£1,476.89****************************************************
Friday 26 Jne
ANY FAV
Herschel won 4th race @4/6
loss on day £1.66profit/loss this year -£4,037.39
profit/loss since Jan 08 +£14,647.39
ANY FAV NOON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
A Band Of Gold won 5th race 8/11
loss on day -£33.68profit/loss this year +£90.10
profit/loss since jan 08 +£1,443.21Tues 23 June
ANY FAV
Rock Of Love won 1st race 11/10
profit on day £5.50profit/loss this year -£4,049.05
profit/loss since jan 08 +£14,629.05ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Rock of Love won 1st race
profit on day £11.00profit on year +£58.78
profit/loss since jan 08 +£1,411.89**************************************************
Wed 24 June
ANY FAV
King Of Wands won 1st race 7/4
profit on day £8.75profit/loss this year -£4,040.05
profit/loss since jan 08 +£14,637.80ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Native City won 2nd race 2/1
profit on day £30.00profit loss this year +£88.78
profirt /loss since jan 08 +£1,441.89The only thing normally The News of The World gets right is the date and the price.
However the article on Phil Curry yesterday in the R.P. was worth a read.
Race commentator Phil Curry has chosen to give up his job next month and devote 100% of his time to punting.
Phil Curry is a well known student of the form book and according to the R.P. article drives a Porsche and lives in a big house which he had built to his specifications.
He is going to concentrate backing mainly ‘in running’ using exchange shops which offer the quickest feeds from the racecourses.
It seems logical then he is looking at form for horses that are certain to stay the distance and then strike after the early front runners look like they are starting to fade but is it that simple?
He gives Towcester as an example of a bad course for backing in running as many simply fall away up the run in there but for me horses that have won at Towcester and especially jockeys who have shown patience riding there in the past all seem to do well.
However a form book student who claims to be above average he surely would have known this anyway.
Curry also states that he starts the day with the plan to bet on every race but admits he rarely does.
I have all day to devote to racing but there are many races where for various resons I just scrawl a line through the list of runners. Surely no one in the real World wishes to bet on every race?
I do agree with him though where he states since the recession there seems to be a fall in the turnover ‘in running’ on Betfair.
I rarely bet in running anyway as I simply do not see the sense in trying to beat players that have at least a few seconds advantage over me due to the speeds some trading rooms operate at.
I wish him well anyway.
mon 22 June
ANY FAV
Aurate won 2nd race @8/13
profit on day £1.15profit/loss this year -£4,054.55
profit/loss since jan 08 +£14,623.65ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Italian Tom won 3rd race @8/15
loss on day £8.70profit/loss this year +£47.78
profit/loss since jan08 +1,400.89- AuthorPosts