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Sure Chris will be back very soon but hard to see where in print given the scale of cutbacks. Wouldn’t think the Post could afford someone of his standing and doubt he would want to work somewhere where so many areas are off limits.
I suppose given how little space they get in the paper, sadly The Guardian bean counters were always going to say three people on the racing desk was too many. There is one national newspaper group producing seven papers, including pullouts, with roughly the same headcount.
Wonder if The Athletic would be interested in covering racing? They seem to be the only place left with deep pockets.Wonder what the circulation drop will be for 2018 after the big price hike.
Do you know if those figures include the Betting Shop Display copies plus the extra one bookies have to buy? If so that would account for 18,000 sales or so. Given that it must sell many more on a Saturday, Cheltenham etc, run of the mill weekday sales must be very small.
I don’t see how any niche publication could charge £1 these days.
Even local weeklies that are packed with adverts charge that amount and more. Consider that the publisher only gets around half the cover price and has to pay for print and distribution as well as content.
Other than independent newsagents, all other retailers like chain newsagents, supermarkets, garages etc also charge fees just for putting the paper on the shelf.
The columnists etc make up no more than 10% of the overall cost of producing the paper so even having a paper with almost no editorial in it, which would be strange, wouldn’t bring down the price by more than about 10p.
You could knock the pagination back to 48 pages without the columns to knock another 10p off. So even the most stark paper with just cards and form would have to charge £1.70.
The only way it could be cheaper is if the racing/betting industry supported it with advertising spend. And we know how likely that is!I am helping out with the new racing paper starting this weekend — The Racing Paper.
There are more details here:
https://greenwayspublishing.com/news/One of the things we’d like to do is offer opportunities for writers to get into print.
In particular are looking to add to the roster of writers for the race-by-race tipping guides and form comments. I’ve been a member of this forum for many years and have read a lot more sense here than in most papers!
So if you feel you can contribute, get in touch. The ability to analyse races and hit the deadline is more important than great writing skill.
If you send me a message on here with your email address I’ll get back to you.(By the way, I’ve cleared this post with cormack15 first)
It’s coming from Greenways Publishing who have The Non-League Paper and Rugby Paper among other things, including Racing Ahead monthly.
We sold the magazine to them a few years ago and it’s still going strong – about 14 years after many people on forums said it would last three issues!How about a couple of consolation races for those who don’t get into the (usually) over-subscribed handicaps?
I’ll get my coat.You’re right – the alert on HRB has taken the rider’s claim on the second top weight into account, which makes it a qualifier on weight carried. It’s best I am sure not to include riders’ claims when looking for qualifiers.
It’s something for me to remember when looking for qualifiers in the future.There is a qualifier on the “standard” top weight rules today – Call Out Loud, 5.35 Salisbury.
Hello Billion
Did some digging on penalised runners for you using HRB and there is a “system” but it would be a bit of a pain to monitor by hand. So I have set up a HRB alert and it will flag up any qualifiers.ALL HORSES CARRYING A PENALTY SINCE 2003 UK AND IRE
Bets: 15219
Wins: 3565 (23.42)
£1 bet at SP: -1012.98
£1 bet at Betfair SP (after commission): +132.94So betting at Betfair SP generates a profit which suggests best early prices would do the same.
I looked at all kinds of factors like race class, type etc without being able to come up with any easy way to boost the strike rate.
But I have a theory that certain trainers have horses that are so far ahead of the handicapper that the penalty still leaves them well in.
I looked at the record of all trainers who have had 10 or more penalised runners. The list below have all won with at least a third of their penalised horses.
Following these trainers has had the following results, whether they will continue is impossible to say but they have done well before.
It finds around two bets per week, no bet if more than one qualifier.
Bets: 1196
Wins: 492 (41.14%)
£1 bet at SP: +381.69 (31.91 ROI)Trainers with any penalised runner, UK and Ireland:
Appleby, Charlie
Attwater, M J
Baker, George
Bell, M L W
Berry, John
Bolger, J S
Boyle, J R
Bravery, G C
Brown, D H
Callaghan, S A
Cantillon, D E
Charlton, R
Clement, T T
Cowell, R M H
Cox, C G
Creighton, E J
Dickman, A
Dunlop, E A L
Feilden, Miss J
Flynn, Patrick J
Gask, J R
Gollings, S
Jarvis, W
Lanigan, D R
Lyons, G M
Makin, P J
McBride, P J
Midgley, P T
Morrison, H
Musson, W J
Oliver, Andrew
OMeara, D
ONeill, E J
Palling, B
Pitt, T J
Prescott, Sir Mark
Saunders, M S
Wall, C F
Weld, D K
Wigham, M
Williams, S CThere you have it – as I say, HRB will flag up the qualifiers and I am happy to pass them on. Only time will tell if the trainers continue to do well with penalised horses.
Argent Knight, 3.30 Plumpton today is a qualifier if we are still using horses that are 5lb clear.
The list does appear in the printed Racing Post every day. I don’t buy it any more but surely someone on this site does (or maybe not!).
Hello Billion
I’ve broken the races down in HRB and it seems that the method works better on the Flat. Sticking with the 8-12lb criteria pushes the strikerate up to 35% for the turf and AW. There are a similar number of bets too as over the jumps.
I don’t know how well the below table will come out, but it shows how the method works depending on how many pounds clear the top weight is. For example, top weights 1lb clear and meeting all the other method rules have a 20% strikerate, those 8lb clear have a 36% strikerate.Lbs clear Bets Wins Win% £1 bet Places Place&
1 2194 446 20% -277.01 1000 46%
2 1587 337 21% -248.36 767 48%
3 1170 272 23% -45.73 555 47%
4 789 174 22% -143.53 385 49%
5 649 176 27% 37.60 322 50%
6 485 135 28% -32.37 254 52%
7 292 76 26% -33.17 151 52%
8 184 67 36% 50.38 100 54%
9 139 49 35% 32.34 84 60%
10 87 28 32% 8.58 48 55%
11 56 20 36% -0.65 28 50%
12 28 7 25% -6.68 16 57%
13 16 8 50% 5.16 14 88%
14 10 5 50% 5.83 6 60%
15 11 4 36% -1.95 7 64%
16 10 2 20% -3.50 3 30%
17 5 2 40% -1.56 2 40%
18 3 3 100% 3.33 3 100%
20 3 1 33% -1.33 1 33%
21 1 0 0% -1.00 1 100%Forgive me for butting in – but have you decided to discard the non-handicap races only rule?
On the rules above (ie 8-12lb clear), it’s 1-2 bets per week. They do seem worth waiting for though! The rules are slightly different to your’s, on the 6lb clear limit you would get 3-4 bets per week.
