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Ollieclark, those odds for vatour are listed in error I’m afraid. 5/2 is his price for the champ chase, he is evens with them for the Ryanair.

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Vatour 2pts cc 8/1 Betfred please and
Vroum vroum mag 2pts win Ryanair 14/1 WH

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I thought he got from one side to the other at a decent pace, but
he skims his fences, he almost on a few occasions looks to “dive”
at his fences imo.

It’s all about opinions BigG but i would like to have all my horses jump low and economically, there’s nothing to improve on there.

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Fabulous, it’s Cheltenham comp time!

Champion hurdle:ew peace and co 16/1 lads

World hurdle:2pts win alpha des obeaux 16/1 boyles

Gold cup:ew Holywell 33/1 PP

Thanks chaps!

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I was very taken with cue cards first run this season, and even more encouraged at his ability to finish his races after the second. For me Don Cossack needs to boss his fields and tends to flatter through beaten horses once he has sulked through the race if not getting his own way. Vatour won’t be staying the gold trip this year but give him time. I suspect Djackadam won’t put it all in at the end of the 3m 2f trip this year after last years attempt so for me the race is between cue card and don poli, and I have backed accordingly as of the start of the season. Stakes on vatour will have to be written off I’m afraid, and I certainly suspect we will see him in the QMCC rather than the Ryanair. That being said, he still probably represents Riccis best chance of a gold cup and I’d be inclined to put Djack in the Ryanair and leave Vatour to take his chance.
UDS is fallible though.

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Evening all.
Gord, I’m with you on SDR and have backed him from 40’s down since pfn first highlighted the gold cup as his 2016 target last year. His Aintree run was very green to my eye and he’s all potential – by far my biggest winner for next years showpiece. However, I disagree with you on vatour and think he will also be lining up for the gold cup rather than the significantly easier 2m division provided the current fav stays sound. Willie surely wouldn’t try and crack the same walnut with both of his biggest sledgehammers..
You’ll not see vautour in the Ryanair either, more likely djakadam will drop to this trip is Ricci doesn’t want to send both to the gold cup.
Holywell remains a player on good ground but I’d prefer coneygree to repeat at this stage from the pair.
Saving on Don Poli too, not giving up hope on the proven C+D grinder.

For me it’s SDR EW and a vautour GC + UDS CC double at this stage.

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Faugheen to beat Arctic Fire at 1/2 would presumably be a forecast chaps.

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1pt EW ord ab chao plz 20/1

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The tullow tank fits the bill.

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2 point win balder succes 7/1 generally please. Underrated this horse since day 1, time to remedy that.

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I’ll take pain au chocolat please EW at 25/1 on offer with boyles.

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Back: Coneygree RSA 7/1. I believe coneygree will go for the RSA rather than the gold cup where he firmly sets the standard. Don Poli is the main threat for sure but at 7/1 thats great value against him as he will need to step up considerably to match Coneys impressive win over the weekend.

Lay: More of that 4/1. This one depends on wether he finds time for a prep run before cheltenham which is looking doubtful. Far too many negatives and imponderables to consider 4/1 without one.

Each way: Wounded Warrior NH Chase 8/1. Don poli looks likely to defect leaving a pretty sparse field regarding quality especially if the young master goes RSA. 3 places on arguably the best horse with a solid jockey booking ie Nina looks solid to me.

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How many NH jockeys have continued riding day-in day-out and more or less at the top of their game after the age of 40?

McCoy is an ‘old’ man and whilst he’s undoubtedly a one-off, has remained third-decade fit and would appear to be constructed of rubber-sprung steel even he, like the Land Rover Defender, couldn’t go on forever

You’d wonder if AP McCoy was the only imminent retiree on show at Leopardstown yesterday. Paul Carberry turns 41 today and has had plenty of injury problems in recent years. His ride on Apache Stronghold was a thing of beauty.

THM I believe Apache stronghold has been cited as Mr Carberry’s reason to keep riding! I think I read somewhere that as long as Apache gives him a tilt at the gold cup he will be available to ride him. Perhaps a bit tongue in cheek I don’t know but could well be Joe Tizzards Cue Card.

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Zoso I find your comments ref AP’s timing ludicrous. Just because he’s reached 41 somehow he’s lost the ability to assess a horses rhythm?
Something that increases with age is your ability to assess a situation and choose a superior course of action. Reaction time and physicality decrease with age, not timing.

All in all I’d say he’s reached just about the right age to assess his own future without someone second guessing his motivation! JP’s operation fits incredibly well with AP’s modus operandi as a jockey and there’s not another jockey in the world that could service his team of horses remotely as well. AP’s retirement will leave a hole in Jonjo and JP’s organisations that will create some kind and of headache for them.

Wouldn’t the discussion of AP’s replacement make a more interesting thread?

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Also in the silver Concorde camp 1pt EW 33/1 betway

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Depending on him getting assigned a low enough mark, I wonder if the novice HDCP might be a better plan for RTW Gord?

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It’s a bit of an anomaly in this case though Zam, coney had virtually nothing to beat after the departure or no show of most of his rivals. I don’t think he was obliged to pull up between the last two simply to enhance his rsa claims.

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