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Racing Daily makes the most valid point here comparisons across the ages are futile. All sports change and evolve, things are different. Take the Arsenal team of today and transport them back to play the the top team of Arkle days and the result would be a massacre but of course this does not mean that the footballers of the 60’s were not as good as those today simply that the game has changed.
Best Mate has now won 3 Gold Cups beating the best stayers of its own generation. It is clearly the best staying chaser around and I for one do not believe that the standard of racing now is significantly worse than in the past.
I have to join other contributors here in a large serving of humble pie. I couldn’t have Rooster Booster at any price for the CH and he won so easily in a very good time.
Congratulations both to RB and those who supported him.
Just back from my 15th festival and I have to say from a racing point of view it was the best I have seen.
Every race was run at breakneck pace and we saw class winner after class winner come home.
I will mention Kingscliff here as noone else has a super run in the Foxhunters from him.
I see today’s RP has a ‘pick 4 from 6’ list of possible additional races to extend the festival. I read it and couldn’t beleive it a novice h’cap chase, a juvenile novice hurdle, stealing someone elses race and to cap it all a mares only bumper !!!!!. I did check again to make sure ths wasn’t a race programme for a mid week event at Market Rasen but appearantly not. They really are serious suggestions for additional races at the festival.
I notice you can bet on this with both Corals and Ladbrokes with VOB and Lester joint 6/4 fav’s.
O’Brien looks a standout price if only people on TRF were aloud to vote !!!!! but I gues Lesters more populist appeal may swig things in his direction.<br>
Indeed who have they consulted ???
Certainly not my party Cheltenham devotees not missing a race at the festival in 16 years and pre-booking 10-20 tickets a year for that period.
Personally i find the idea min numbing. Why alter the best experience racing has to offer ? Money,money money,money both for the course and local hotels etc of course why not add another overpriced night to the calender ?
As for the suggested new races, excuse me while I stifle a yawn. As suggested the only possible gap in the schedule is for a 2.5 mile championship race but of course the danger here is that the already often lightly subscribed Queen Mother would suffer.
At least one of the four days is going to be left without a highlight. I guess it will be the Thursday when the stayers will be the feature race.
Why not add a fifth day featuring a seller and novice handicap chase after all you can still sell a few pints of guiness.
If your’e going to ride it as a hold up horse, ride at as a hold up horse and challenge after the last to lead close home. Just rode too confidently today, expecting Deano’s Beano to fold as soon as challenged. Maybe TD doesn’t watch much UK racing with Pipe horses staying and staying for ever ??.
I realised Deano’s Beano was a good bet about half way round too late was the cry however.
Whilst watching the Champion Chase on course the commentator said oooo and Latalomne’s down then on the big screen where I was watching the action Latalomne took off hit the fence and fell about one sec later !!!
conspiracy or a slight delay on the screen action hmmmm I wonder
Beard; the race being discussed is the stayers hurdle at Cheltenham where Baracouda beat Bannow Bay without breaking sweat. You seem to have it confused with some fantasy of your own where two horses battled to the line from 4f out !!
Ahah Rob yes so I see !!
I backed Alexander Banquet so I could probably do with a slice of pie myself. For me though this was the race of the Festival a new star is born ?? I didn’t mind losing my money one bit and sprinted to the winners enclosure to cheer BM in. It seems Hens ‘cotton wool’ treatment worked.
Just reread this thread and am disappointed that only Escorial has stepped foward to eat his humble pie. Come on you doubters stand up and be counted !!
My first pot since returning from Cheltenham with my fingers seriously burned but just about surviving thanks to the terrific price Baracouda went off. I can hardly believe what I am reading here are some of you people bling. Bannow Bay ran a good race but Baracouda beat him without really trying this is one very very serious racehorse. Baracouda made ground from last place to first without any appearant effort whatsoever and won very cosily. TD certainly isn’t my cup of tea as a jockey but he won and the horse remains undefeated if anyone wants to keep standing me odds against this horse in hurdle races from 2.5 miles up please let me know !!!.
How about this for a thought Aintree Good Ground 2.5 miles Baracouda v Hors La Loi.
Esc. Irellevant wasn’t really the right word I suppose I meant misinterpretted. Your stats on the CH winners ages are irrelevent though it is the strike rate for each agre group that matters not the number of winners. I take your point about the prevailing ground being generally better in the recent pact but Istabraq hardly lacks for a bit of pace on Firm ground !!!!!!!
Finally ‘To beat the top class horses, five seasons in succession, would appear to be impossible’ sorry Esc but that statement is the biggest load of $$**!! I think I have ever seen for all we know Istabraq could be going for 6 not 5 this year and has already done it 4 times its not like someone is suggesting he will win at the next 5 festivals. You state something is impossible when all that has to happen is undoubtedly the best hurdler to be seen over the last 5 years has to win one race to make it come true !!!
I presume you base this on the form line you mentioned using Spendid. As I said bare figures mean little firstly Boss Doyle beat Spendid in an early season race when fitness is a massive factor.
I could just as easily point out the form line using Historic Boss Doyle gave him 4lbs beat him 9l Baracouda off levels beat him 39l and walked over the line, therefore Baracouda will beat Boss Doyle a distance ???
Of course not. The most significant thing about Boss Doyles form for me is he seems well held by the other Irish runners.
The stats you quote as being against Isty Esc are pretty much irrelevant. The first two no horse has won 4 CH’s and no horse has won at 5 festivals are obviously very limited in stats as you first have to win 3 ch’s or at 4 festivals in a row. I would suggest if Isty manages it the 5 festival wins in row will have a 1-1 record for 100% !!
The 10 year old stat is more valid somebody put up the sucess rates for the various ages somewhere and again if Isty wins 10 year olds will in fact suddenly have the best strike rate in the race. As I also pointed out in that thread any 10 year old that has not already shown CH form is unlikely to suddenly develop it at that age but of course Isty has already shown CH winning form 3 times so I’d say that isn’t against him either.
If AP was riding this horse it would be a good bet at 1-2. The best thing for TD is that it should be hard to mess it up too badly at Cheltenham the pace will be strong and as long as he keeps Baracouda reasonably handy things should be pretty simple for the horse.
Form for me is not a numbers game if it was that easy there would be no such thing as betting on horse racing. For me Baracouda won a decent staying race not run to suit him very cosily maybe a few others were not too far behind but nothing else ever had a chance of winning and I felt Baracouda had plenty in hand.
Knocking his form is easy to do but the horse has run in all the top English staying hurdles of the last two years and won them and you can’t really ask more than that. Judgement day against the Irish challenge is not far away now.