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While I agree that he may not be as good as the elite, you have to remember a lot of the Pipe squad are owned by David Johnson and they tend to usually be a bit better than the rest of the Pipe horses, and Murphy gets those rides.
I don’t think David Pipe would use him just on the basis he is Peters son, but obviously some people agree with your opinion after Andrew McNamara took over the retainer for the Barr horses just prior to this years festival.
But forgive me for finishing on a cliche, the Jockey is only as good as the horse beneath him, most of the time anyway.
Good thread.
I used to look forward to the flat starting on a thursday for a 3 day Doncaster meeting beginning with the Brocklesby, well apart from trying to find the winner of a 2yo maiden with no form to go on, now it seems there are too many AW meetings and I wonder if they are taking priority from the old format and if thats the case I cant fathom why.
In my experience if the price is what you would call good value for what the horse has actually done or what the other runners have done or not done then there are more pros than cons.
Countless times this has happened to me mate, but for a long time now I have stuck to level stakes win selections regardless of the price.
For instance, if I start with a bank of £100 I will back selections in £10 win singles, if and when I treble the original bank to £300 i will double the original stakes to £20 win singles and so on, hope your luck changes mate.
Thanks for the replies guys, I will place a smaller wager on him before the race on Sat, by the sound of it if he wins his Kentucky price will disappear, but I won’t be playing big on that until I get a better idea come Sat night.
I was convinced 2 miles in the Tingle Creek would be too pacey for him even though he had an impressive Arkle win under his belt, Tidal Bay at Kempton must be the most confident or optimistic view i’ve had for a while, an easy 3 miles will suit him down to the ground and all being well all roads should then lead to the Ryanair Chase at the Festival, good luck whatever your opinions.
I’m going to get some big prices on Ringaroses and hope Hen Knight can keep him in one piece, but realism tells me that Kasbah Bliss is the best bet of the Festival at this point in time.
Harry Findlay, never once doubted his ‘Tank’ would win the Gold Cup, great guy, racing needs more characters like him.
Genius ride from Manning in the Derby, the horse wouldn’t settle, couldn’t have come down the hill any worse but Manning was perfect on him, gutsy path up the inside, I still can’t believe the horse won.
Only one winner, Zarkava, didn’t think she would stay 12 furlongs in her horse box, how wrong I was and how happy I was to be proved wrong, best filly i’ve ever seen or am likely to ever see.
I’m a big Henderson fan, but as much as his stable being in great form you can’t help feel sorry about Jack The Giant, impressive reappearance but out for the rest of the season, reminds me of Trabolgan after his top-weight Hennessy win, niggling problems ever since.
Not sure who commentated but I heard them say that Thornton got him home, credit to the jockey but on the run in it seemed like the winner wanted it more than the second who to be fair wasn’t stopping in front, not often have I seen a horse with more guts and I wish all the ones I back would give as much effort.
Twist Magic was travelling well granted, but would he have been able to stay with Master Minded when he kicked away, very much doubt it. I’d still keep Tidal Bay on my good side though, 2 miles is too quick for him and I honestly think the King George is tailor-made for him. Back to Master Minded though and people should enjoy his final season at 2 miles, next season he will be Denman’s only serious Gold Cup rival.
In my opinion I would say Mark Johnston on the Flat, he does really well consistently every season and he doesn’t get the best of the arab owned horses sent to him. Over jumps Paul Nicholls is second to nobody, but of the rest i’m a big fan of Evan Williams.
I was taken with him but I can’t fall for him yet, after Pescatorio last year my burnt fingers are still healing, i’ll wait until his three year old campaign before I lay down my hard earned betting vouchers.
