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    Jonibake
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    Well done Jac!! I can’t bet out here! Hoping to be at Newmarket on Wednesday. Already I see Eminent is declared next Tuesday as well as one I think still has a big future – Seven Heavens. Mark my word , Goaden will be asking Frankie to ride most of them from the front from now on.

    Here’s a nice little stat to take to bed with you. Of the 11 Frankel horses who have run in France, Ireland and U.K. since March and who ran at least once last season, 10 of them have won!!! It could be a hell of a year!

    "this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"

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    Frankelmania has hit Europe wonder what price he is to be leading sire 2017.
    Fantastic stat Joni roll on the Craven Meeting :yahoo:

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    Racing.com have advised the following 2 Frankel colts are declared to run on Tuesday 18th April at The Craven Meeting, Newmarket…

    Marine One – 13.50pm Newmarket Tuesday 18th April
    (Marine Bleue (Desert Prince)

    First time up for David Simcock’s Qatar Racing owned three year old, who is half brother to five winners including French Listed winner Miarina Piccola. The dam was a seven furlong to a mile winner including at Group 3 level, also being half sister to a French five furlong listed race winning two year old. There is a good mix of speed and stamina in his pedigree so he looks to be one to watch starting out at the mile trip.

    Elyaasaat – 13.50pm Newmarket Tuesday 18th April
    (Lahudood (Singspiel)

    Another debutant, this time for William Haggas and owned by Hamdan Al Maktoum, looking to have a good chance on paper. He’s a half brother to Aghareed who was a French listed winner at the 1m 2f trip, with the damn being a Breeders’ Cup Filly & Mare Turf winner back in 2007. Likely to be a popular one on debut for such powerful connections.

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    If you fancy Fair Eva for the 1000 Guineas (generally 8s across) then BetVictor are 8/1 for Frankel to sire a British classic winner with his first crop of 3yos..

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    If you fancy Fair Eva for the 1000 Guineas (generally 8s across) then BetVictor are 8/1 for Frankel to sire a British classic winner with his first crop of 3yos..

    That seems a sensible option, even if there is no other obvious back up to Fair Eva at the moment. That might change in the coming weeks, so any other contenders is a bonus to the 8/1.

    I already did Fair Eva at 20/1 so I’ll sit with that bet and see if she bounces back.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Mori is entered up at Newbury next Friday. The 3.40 Race on the card is a maiden fillies race over 10F and Ryan Moore is shown as being jocked up for her.

    This is the filly out of Midday and I suggested Afternoon Nap as a name for her but they went with the rather boring name Mori.

    Anyway, Michael Stoute is 5/11 or 45% the past fortnight, so that’s encouraging.

    Friday 21st 3.40 Newbury Mori (Frankel-Midday) Sir Michael Stoute

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1296944
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    Hope to be there to see Mori Stevie. She certainly has the pedigree doesn’t she?

    Tomorrow sees the return of Toulifaut at Chantilly. She looked very smart last year and you can put a line through her last race where she got no run at all. She is up against her half-sister Lady Frankel and Senga, the likely favourite. I think she’ll go well.

    As for the 8-1 bet – with Fair Eva the same odds it is an attractive bet. There will be at least 4 Frankel’s running in 2,000 Guineas trials this week – Eminent, Dream Castle, Seven Heavens and Swiss Storm – all outsiders at the moment but all have potential. In the 1,000 Queen Kindly will run in the Fred Darling, though I can’t see her staying a mile and La Figlia makes her debut at Newmarket. I like Aljazeera for the Oaks and Cracksman is all the rage at the moment as he is working the house down apparently. He has been backed for the Derby.

    I would love to see Fair Eva win the 1,000 Guineas but I worry that she was a little exposed at the back end last season and that she will find one or two too good. I still think Churchill is more of a middle-distance horse and could be vulnerable to a true top-class miler. The Fabre horse could be the one or maybe one of the Frankels – personally I think Aiden should have a rethink with Orderofthegarter. For me the likeliest Frankel classic winners are Aljazeera or Cracksman but there is plenty of time for me to be proved wrong.

    "this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"

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    My worry for Cracksman is that he is said to be headed to the Epsom Derby Trial and that race is the kiss of death these days. Gosden has landed the race 4 of the last 10 times but it’s not been a race that yields Derby winners.

    Utmost was well backed at Newcastle as if there was stable confidence behind him, 7/1 into 10/3, but was a bit disappointing. I would like to have seen him win to bolster stable form.

    I see Seven Heavens multiply entered next week but he’ll need to settle better to perform to his best. I am planning on taking him on in case he pulls his chance away and there may be a value angle there.

    Should be a great and informative week ahead. Hope you see Mori winning nicely next week. She is already prominent in the Oaks betting and a winning debut surely sees her near the head of affairs for Epsom.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    I hadn’t read that about Cracksman Stevie. My guess is that JG would like to get 2 races into him before a possible Epsom tilt so that trial would be a good starting point even if the race isn’t a good pointer for the Derby. I agree with you about Seven Heavens. He won’t win anything until he learns to settle but I have been reading positive bulletins about him. I reckon you will see Frankie lead on him next time and let him stride out much like he did with Monarchs Glen.

    Incidentally I looked at the Oaks entries and couldn’t see Mori – maybe they are thinking it will come too soon.

    "this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"

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    https://mobile.twitter.com/AtTheRaces/status/852510905984196608/video/1

    That’s Cracksman having a race course gallop at Chelmsford earlier in the week.

    Would you be worried about his knee action and thus his ability to handle Epsom?

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    https://mobile.twitter.com/AtTheRaces/status/852510905984196608/video/1

    That’s Cracksman having a race course gallop at Chelmsford earlier in the week.

    Would you be worried about his knee action and thus his ability to handle Epsom?

    I highlighted the very different actions of Cracksman and Wild Tempest in another thread. The video of their race can be seen here:-

    http://www.thejockeyclub.co.uk/video/20161019/2637393/15748420

    I think this video is as good as any to use when trying to teach people the very different ways in which horses can gallop.

    Cracksman has lots of knee action and grabs for the ground, whereas Wild Tempest has the classic daisy cutting action, where he skims along the surface with a quicker cadence.

    For me, in that Newmarket race, Cracksman comes under the shove roughly 4F out. There was never a stage of the race when he looked to be going that cosily but he keeps staying on for pressure and ultimately prevails.

    I would like to see him travel more kindly to view him as an Epsom sort. The course is not really a gallopers track and Cracksman looked a resolute galloper on debut, a horse that takes a bit of stoking. I wouldn’t want one at Epsom where the coal is being shovelled on from a long way out. Maybe the plan is to take him to the Epsom trial to learn more about how suited he will be to the course.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Steve Looking at Cracksman in that race at Newmarket and on Bobby Bluebell’s video he looks to have a bit of deviation on his forelegs very similar, although not as pronounced, as the great filly Attraction. His big high knee action looks totally suited to soft ground and would be worried about him running on anything firmer than good, good/soft which could draw a line through some of the summer fixtures, he seems a middle distance colt to me but I’m no expert it’s just how I view him.

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    #1296993
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    I wouldn’t worry about ground for him guys. Yes he has some knee but so did hid dad. The Frankel’s are ground-grabbers! But there is little evidence yet to suggest they don’t go on quick ground. I would be more worried about Steve’s other point – the galloping tracks. Yes, he did take a while to hit top gear in that Newmarket race and also, it seemed, at Chelmsford. Obviously the Derby trip will help in this regard and it WAS only his debut but he certainly looks more of a galloper than a quickener. I can’t help being drawn to the similarities between him and Golden Horn of the same ownership. Both pretty workmanlike first time out but one developed into a very, very good Derby winner. There is a hell of a long way to go with this one but if you can’t dream in early April, when can you dream?!!!

    "this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"

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    So I had planned to pile in on Toulifaut today. She was desperately unlucky in her last run and her form before that was very good. I am sure she will go well but I am not sure she will reverse the form with Senga. She too got delayed in her run in the Prix Marcel Boussac but finished with a real rattle and I think she looks potentially very decent. We (i.e. Frankel fans Stilvi) also have Lady Frankel in the race – she could be anything but she will certainly need to improve a fair bit from her debut. I (that’s me) will watch this one.

    "this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"

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    Thanks Joni for your comments on Cracksman and the ground I really want him to succeed at high level this year he is such an exciting horse to watch.
    I think I was more worried about him injuring himself on fast ground as he really thumps the ground as he runs.. :heart:

    Ps..
    Just put a small win bet on Lady Frankel this afternoon..hope to see them both battling out the finish and happy for either to win but taking a chance the Lady has improved. :rose: Jac

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    Big runner for Frankel tomorrow with Eminent.

    Let’s hope he runs better than Seven Heavens who sweated up quite badly today and was easily beaten.

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    Seven Heavens was taken down early today and spent a lot of time hanging around by the stalls waiting for the others to come down. He wasn’t sweating up in the pre parade and paddock and he wasn’t playing up, so why did they take him down so early?

    Frankie was getting a real talking too from John Gosden after the race with Lord Grimthorpe living up to his name and the consensus of opinion was that Frankie had let the winner get too far ahead, think they really expected Seven Heavens to win today, interested to hear what anyone else thinks.. :mail:

    Can’t wait to see Eminent tomorrow and believe he has an excellent chance of winning The Craven..I’ve only backed one winner the two days that I’ve been at Newmarket so far and hoping tomorrow Eminent will save the Meeting for not just me but Frankel…
    COME ON EMINENT :yahoo:

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