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  • #1297435
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    I’m not sure Frankie can take all the blame as Seaven Heavens hasn’t learnt to relax in his races yet, perhaps he should of just let him go but chances are he’d have burnt the fuel tank out and lost anyway. He looks like my friends dog when I’m walking him, I’ve got him on a firm reign and his legs are going but he’s not getting far. That too leads to getting tired and having nothing left in the finish. It’s his first run of the season so may of been fresh enough anyway. The hood isn’t a great sign of the horses temperament.

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    #1297436
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    <p abp=”211″>Seven Heavens was taken down early today and spent a lot of time hanging around by the stalls waiting for the others to come down. He wasn’t sweating up in the pre parade and paddock and he wasn’t playing up, so why did they take him down so early?

    <p abp=”212″>Frankie was getting a real talking too from John Gosden after the race with Lord Grimthorpe living up to his name and the consensus of opinion was that Frankie had let the winner get too far ahead, think they really expected Seven Heavens to win today, interested to hear what anyone else thinks.. :mail:

    <p abp=”214″>Can’t wait to see Eminent tomorrow and believe he has an excellent chance of winning The Craven..I’ve only backed one winner the two days that I’ve been at Newmarket so far and hoping tomorrow Eminent will save the Meeting for not just me but Frankel…<br abp=”215″>
    COME ON EMINENT :yahoo:

    You may be right but I take the view that he may need further and that today was too sharp for him at the business end.

    #1297437
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    The trouble with stepping up in trip is they tend to go slower at the start, thus making it harder for him to settle.
    I think Joni probably had the right idea in letting him have his head and try and settle him once in front.

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    John Gosden said he appeared to not stay the trip and he’s already earmarked a race for a drop down in trip.

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    Seven Heavens just pulled too hard and looks like a bit of a head case.

    Perhaps a visit from the vet would render him more tractable.

    #1297518
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    What a win! :yahoo:

    FRANKEL!!!!!!! B-)

    #1297532
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    Hi guys – been away from the action the last couple of days so catching up now. Seven Heavens IS a head case and won’t be a decent horse until he can learn to settle. He doesn’t seem to have matured at all from last year. Saying that I am not surprised Frankie got a bollocking as the plan had definitely been to lead with him and let him stride on. I don’t believe he could have won but he might have finished a bit closer.

    I have kind of mixed emotions with Eminent as I stupidly didn’t back him believing what I read about him just possibly needing further. I certainly think he WILL stay further and could even be a live Derby contender but as Judge says “WOW!!!” To do what he did today after only 1 previous run marks him down as pretty special and he would have to have a chance in the Guineas now with any amount of improvement surely expected between now and the big day. They said on the telly that he looked the biggest in the paddock and that he would improve most for the run. The further they went the better he looked and he will certainly benefit from the likely fast pace that Aiden will ensure for Churchill. Is he good enough to beat Aidan’s beast? Possibly not. But he will give him a great race. Yet it is later in the season and over further when I think we will REALLY see this horse come into his own. The wonderful Martyn Meade has been so patient with him and we are going to see that pay dividend as the season unfolds.

    The person I am MOST happiest for is of course Triptych (Jac) who I knows LOVES this horse. Well done Jac!!! i hope you put the family silver on him and that you have had a thrilling day seeing him in the flesh. I can’t wait to hear your thoughts!!! xxx

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    Yes great for you guys Joni and Jac :good:

    Think Dream Castle makes it a 2,000 guineas trial double on Saturday B-)

    #1297583
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    Hi guys – been away from the action the last couple of days so catching up now. Seven Heavens IS a head case and won’t be a decent horse until he can learn to settle. He doesn’t seem to have matured at all from last year. Saying that I am not surprised Frankie got a bollocking as the plan had definitely been to lead with him and let him stride on. I don’t believe he could have won but he might have finished a bit closer.

    I have kind of mixed emotions with Eminent as I stupidly didn’t back him believing what I read about him just possibly needing further. I certainly think he WILL stay further and could even be a live Derby contender but as Judge says “WOW!!!” To do what he did today after only 1 previous run marks him down as pretty special and he would have to have a chance in the Guineas now with any amount of improvement surely expected between now and the big day. They said on the telly that he looked the biggest in the paddock and that he would improve most for the run. The further they went the better he looked and he will certainly benefit from the likely fast pace that Aiden will ensure for Churchill. Is he good enough to beat Aidan’s beast? Possibly not. But he will give him a great race. Yet it is later in the season and over further when I think we will REALLY see this horse come into his own. The wonderful Martyn Meade has been so patient with him and we are going to see that pay dividend as the season unfolds.

    The person I am MOST happiest for is of course Triptych (Jac) who I knows LOVES this horse. Well done Jac!!! i hope you put the family silver on him and that you have had a thrilling day seeing him in the flesh. I can’t wait to hear your thoughts!!! xxx

    Joni this one is for you and I know you’re kicking yourself for not backing him but lets hope he can bolt up in the 2000 Guineas in 3 weeks time, he certainly knows his way down the Rowley Mile.

    I went up to the viewing platform of the Grandstand where I watched Frankel win the 2000 Guineas just to try to bring him some luck, he didn’t need it. :rose:

    Like you I’m so happy for Martyn Meade and his team this will mean a lot to them and they must be pinching themselves to actually have a ‘Frankel’ in their yard who at this moment is UNBEATEN B-)

    Judge (unlike Joni ;-) ) you kept faith in Eminent too and well done wasn’t he fantastic. :yahoo:

    In the Pre Parade Ring smiling at Joni :heart:

    Eminent tells ITV Racing how he did it. :yes:

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    #1297602
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    Fabulous looking horse isn’t he? The type to keep improving as he grows stronger. Well done again Jac and thanks for sharing. I’ll be at Newbury over the next couple of days cheering on a whole host of Frankel’s starting with Mori today – daughter of Frankel and Midday. Surely a match made in heaven….

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    Dare I say the unsayable, but is it possible that at 3.10 tomorrow, Eminent won’t even be the shortest priced Frankel in the 2000 guineas market? :O

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    The Greenham certainly looks winnable Judge and Dream Castle definitely falls into the “could be anything” category. Quite possibly more of a true miler than his brother…..

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    #1297621
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    I think he’ll win.

    Btw my thoughts on yesterday now the smoke has cleared. I hope I don’t offend anyone on here but I don’t think Eminent will be winning the guineas. I think he’s a nice horse but not a classic winner.

    My feeling is that that the craven just wasn’t a great race. Part of my reason for wanting to double dutch Benbatl and Eminent was that the form horses weren’t any good, and so it proved.

    I know we can do all this back-slapping and say what a great bet you have and how this is bound to win the guineas now but I also think you have to be honest and realistic. Put it this way, I doubt Aiden O Brien was quaking in his boots back in Ireland. And also, could anyone tell me the last horse to win the craven that actually went on to win the guineas? I can recall Haffhd and that’s about it.

    Still Eminent would have some sort of outside squeak and add Swiss Storm and tomorrow’s Greenham winner Dream Castle to his bow and Frankel has a formidable guineas hand :good:

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    Yeah I was right you have to go back to 2004.

    Looking on the brightside for Eminent, he did run a quicker time than any craven winner in the last few years.

    Maybe I’m being harsh on the horse I don’t know. But my feeling is that the traditional way of using a prep race to get your horse ready for a guineas is long gone. The method now is if you have a top class guineas horse, you just send your horse straight for the race, Aiden etc can get them fit at home and there’s other targets later on the season, a prep race is considered unnecessary. Hannon jr like his father seems to go with the more old style approach but how many 2000 guineas winners has he had lately? A big fat zero and you have to go all the way back to 1990 for a Richard Hannon trained winner.

    I’m just playing devils advocate here and I think it would be a great story if eminent was to go on and win, but let’s just settle down the excitement, he clearly has a mountain to climb still.

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    Yes the time was quick.

    Just to give you a comparison, Eminent covered the final three furlongs .2 of a second quicker than Daban did, in the furlong shorter Nell Gywn, and that race was also run off a more pedestrian early gallop. Although maybe that says more about the fact that the Nell Gywn form was rubbish.

    It could also suggest that Eminent has a serious chance of placing in the guineas, but whether he’ll be good enough to win, I guess that depends on how good Churchill is.

    To give another comparison according to my rough timings Eminent covered the final three furlongs in 35.5 seconds, Churchill in his dewhurst win (on similar ground) in 34.7 seconds. Again I think the Churchill race was off a slightly slower pace.

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    If you really love your sectionals then Talaayeb ran the final three furlongs of her maiden win quicker than all of them ;-)

    #1297647
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    Mori is well backed here. She looks as of this race will do her good though. Quite a scopey sort but not fully wound up I would say. I can’t back her at 7/4 and will just watch the race.

    Shutter Speed set a good marker down earlier for comparison.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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