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I have posted before about APEX stallion data. See my post on this thread of 12th September 2018 for a description of how it works, or go to Bill Oppenheim’s website for the originator’s even better explanation and a list of all the data about 777 stallions worldwide. The end-of-year data for 2018 is now published. I have extracted some data about the top five stallions.
The first table is about how much better than an average stallion a chosen stallion is at getting sons or daughters in the top 2% (A Runners) of earners.
Frankel 6.65
Galileo 5.78
Dubawi 4.89
Deep Impact 4.78
War Front 4.68The second table is about how much better than an average stallion a chosen stallion is at getting sons or daughters in the top 8% (ABC Runners) of earners.
Deep Impact 3.18
Frankel 2.89
Galileo 2.73
Dubawi 2.69
War Front 2.40It shows that Frankel is very good at siring top class racehorses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo9ZKVBpxQc this is worth a watch again Jac
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Thanks for that link Chaos I really enjoyed watching that and reliving that magical day at York racecourse.
How brave and determined Sir Henry was to go when he was so frail, it was like Frankel knew how ill his Master was and just gave his all that day nothing was going to get near him.
Thought it nice that Michael Tabor assured Teddy Grimthorpe that their two pacemakers would be up to no funny business in the race and were solely there to make the pace for St. Nicholas Abbey…they might as well have stayed at home
I still think his best race ever was the 2000 Guineas, but that could be because I was there and have never witnessed anything like it as he hit the front and pulled further and further away and the roar of the crowd and the outburst of applause as he was proclaimed the Winner 2 furlongs from home, everyone was smiling all through the day, I’ll never forget it.
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Your welcome Jac, i was there and it was the most up lifting experience, the 2000gns aside, the crowd noise was awesome, when he put those after burners on a furlong from home will live long in the memory
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Yes lots thought at the start that he would come back to the field but as he passed The Bushes his lead just got bigger and bigger. So glad you were there too Chaos, everytime I look at that picture of him winning the race, with the Grandstand in the background, I know I am up there somewhere along the front row as a blur jumping up and down..LOL
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...I was there too Chaos. The most emotional day I can remember at a racecourse. Thanks for sharing that. It has me in tears.
MV – thanks also for sharing that analysis as well as your usual brilliant insights.
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
I guessed you would have been there Joni, it was a magical day. All his races were something to behold (St James Palace, cough cough) i was there for all of his races at Ascot and Goodwood, sadly not the 2000gns.
York was the best for me as not only was it my first time there but it was for me the best race of his career, had the going not been heavy on Arc day that year i believe he could have won as he was so settled for the York race but that’s my own opinion.
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Totally agree Chaos. It is really interesting to see how well his progeny stay and I am certain he would have got the mile and a half comfortably – at least on decent ground. But Sir Henry always thought that it would stretch him too much and that it would have had a detrimental effect on any races after. He wanted perfection and that is what he got.
I saw 9 out of his 14 races and, as a lifelong devoted fan of Sir Henry, it still sends a shiver down my spine when I think of those great days. I too missed the Guineas (trapped on a family holiday in Cheltenham!) but will never forget watching in a local betting shop with my infant twins asleep in the car outside. My jaw literally dropped that day! It’s so hard to choose my favourite race and York definitely comes close as does that incredible final day at Ascot where he showed so much courage to beat the mud-machines that were Nathaniel and Cirrus Des Angles but I have to say that the 11 length decimation in the Queen Anne just edges it. I’d backed him at 10 lengths or more on my thread and just kept screaming from the stands “further! further! further!” as he destroyed his field. He was the nearest thing you will ever see to equine perfection that day.
So many great memories and so wonderful that he lives on through his sons and daughters.
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Just a day before mine Chaos although I’m a wee bit older than Himself
HAPPY BIRTHDAY FRANKEL
Hope you get lots of extra carrots today.Loved reading your memories Chaos and Joni, we are so lucky to have witnessed such greatness.
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Thank you Jac, i too enjoy this thread and the input from you and Joni
Thank you Joni for your view on his best performance, it’s difficult to nail it down to 1 i know, he performed so well all the time, his gns win shut up 99% of the doubters and Henry handled his 14 unbeaten races with the gift only he could have done. I believe A.O.B would have ruined him had it not been K. Abdulla’s turn.
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Sir Mark Todd is embarking on a new equine challenge – he is training the high-class Flat racehorse Eminent and plans to run the five-year-old in two Grade One races in Australia in March and April.
Read more at https://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/mark-todd-train-racehorse-alongside-eventing-career-679429#XSfdDA0FI8TYLiq8.99What do you think Jac, Joni.
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Thanks for this Chaos. Very interesting. I thought it was madness until I reached the end when they added that he was a successful trainer before moving into eventing. Fingers crossed that Eminent runs well before going off to his stud career in New Zealand
Thanks for the link Chaos and I’ll be reading it later and give some feedback. You know how much I love Eminent
and I’ll be hoping he does well on the track and at stud..Jac Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Nice read.
Rostropovich has been sold and will see out his career down under.All comers, all ground, all beaten
What a beauty!! Dream Castle grabs his first Group 1 with a super turn of foot from a wide draw. That’s 6 G1 winners for Frankel now!
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
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