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- June 18, 2013 at 21:54 #443191
Only just in from a round of golf after the racing and have missed the 9/1 on
Cape Peron
for the Brittania. He’s now 7/1 and have had a decent punt on him.
Brittania
Cape Peron
€25 e/w @ 7/1 (PP)June 18, 2013 at 22:21 #443197I backed
Chigun
at the Curragh a few weeks ago and I fancy her again tomorrow in the 2nd. At 7/2 she’s just about big enough to back each way with some confidence. She has to reverse a head defeat to Dank on 3 pounds better terms but over this trip and ground that should be within her ability.
Sweet Lightning
has Luke Dempsey taking off 7 tomorrow and that should make him really competitive in the Hunt Cup. He’s been in good form this season and I think prices of 25/1 underestimate his chance.
My only other bet tomorrow is
Rizeena
in the Queen Mary. The dogs have been barking and birds have been singing about this one, and she’s worth a bet at 13/2. With only 3 places being paid out on this race with most bookies, and 24 runners, I prefer a win only bet as it’s not worth throwing down extra cash for what are terrible place terms.
Duke of Cambridge Stakes
Chigun
€20 e/w @ 7/2 (PP)Hunt Cup
Sweet Lightning
€5 e/w 25/1 (PP)Queen Mary
Rizeena
€10 win 13/2 (BV)June 18, 2013 at 22:22 #443198Will do a tot up of the profit/loss in the morning, too tired for maths to function at the moment!
June 19, 2013 at 09:26 #443224- €19
June 19, 2013 at 16:22 #443264There’s worse bets than Ger Lyon’s
Harmonic Note
at 66/1 in the last at Ascot. Boylesports paying 5 places and at that sort of price I think she’s worth a small each way play.
Sandringham
Harmonic Note
€2.50 e/w 66/1 (Boyles)- €24
June 20, 2013 at 14:04 #443365Day 1 at Royal Ascot was very good and yesterday was profitable again thanks to the brilliant Rizeena. Hopefully I can keep it going today. Already backed
Cape Peron
in the Brittania, and it seems odd to fancy one strongly in a 28 runner handicap over the straight mile at Ascot but it happens to be the case. I firmly believe this is the case of a Group horse running in a handicap and with look in running he should win.
Was going to have a hefty bet on
Rite Of Passage
but he’s just been declared a non runner, very disappointing. The horse I reckoned was the main danger is
Saddlers Rock
, who I’mnow having a bet on in Rite Of Passage’s absence. The main thing with Saddlers Rock is he wants the ground like a road. He was only just beaten in this last year on Good-Soft ground, and was not beaten far behind Rite Of Passage on Soft ground on Champions Day. Everything looked right for him on Dubai World Cup day and wouldn’t you know then the saddle slipped with him early in the race. There would be no more deserving winner of the race and none of his rivals strike fear in the heart. William Hill are paying out on 4 places and everything looks in place for a big run. A little each way double with Cape Peron wouldn’t go astray either.
Ascot Gold Cup
Saddlers Rock
€20 e/w 6/1 (WH)Saddlers Rock & Cape Peron
€5.50 e/w double 6/1 and 7/1 (PP)+/- 0
June 20, 2013 at 16:00 #443387Cape Peron could only manage a place in the Brittania, not the result I hoped for but gets back some of the Saddlers Rock losses. AP O’Brien’s horses are running out of their skin and
Indian Chief
looks a nice price for the Tercentenary Stakes. He ran well in the Dante, looking like the winner at one stage before fading in the finish. I think he’ll run well.
Tercentenary Stakes
Indian Chief
€10 e/w 5/1June 20, 2013 at 16:12 #443388Indian Chief disappointing and I think JP thought they were going around again

+ €48.75
June 20, 2013 at 22:00 #443437A bad day at the office today, the place effort of Cape Peron the only bit of solace. On ground with a bit more juice in it he’ll pay his way. Saddlers Rock ran like a drain, hard to elaborate on that and it’s probably best not to!
Onwards and upwards, I’m still ahead this week and hopefully tomorrow I can regain the winning thread. Aidan O’Brien’s
Battle Of Marengo
is well clear on ratings in the King Edward and his form looks a cut above his rivals. While odds of 5/6 look a bit cramped at first, I don’t think this race possesses the strength in depth that s typical of a group race at Royal Ascot and 5/6 actually underestimates his chance. Should be a 4/7 shot for me.
Then to the big race of the day, the Coronation Stakes. I backed
Big Break
for the Irish 1000 Guineas where she was the only filly to give Just The Judge a race before fading into 4th. She re-opposes tomorrow and with a better draw and the benefit of a run I think there’ll be much less between them. There’s a plethora of unexposed filly’s in the race but I couldn’t let Big Break go unbacked at 6/1.
My only other bet is another Ballydoyle 3 year old:
Leading Light
in the Queens Vase. This is another animal I’ve put up in the past, when he won the Gallinule in good style at the Curragh. He looked a real grinder that day and this marked step up in trip should see him in an even better light. He has to shoulder a penalty but I think this is the kind of horse who’ll keep finding more as others come to him, and could go on to better things after tomorrow.
King Edward VII Stakes
Battle Of Marengo
€30 win 5/6Coronation Stakes
Big Break
€10 e/w 6/1Queen’s Vase
Leading Light
€20 win 2/1- €21.25
June 21, 2013 at 08:10 #443463Your Thursday sounds like my Wednesday THM, but as you say, onwards and upwards, not forgetting you called a few winners that didn’t make the thread!
June 21, 2013 at 16:55 #443539Diamond Jubilee
Slade Power
€10 e/w 14/1 (WH)June 21, 2013 at 20:06 #443564I think
Slade Power
will confirm himself as a top class sprinter this season, whether he does it tomorrow or in the July Cup I’m not sure. His last run was a lovely pipe opener when he didn’t get the best of runs and he should strip a lot fitter tomorrow.
I love the Hardwicke as a betting race. In recent years there have been some very impressive winners such as Harbinger and Await The Dawn. The looked the class horses before the race and so it proved.
Ektihaam
is the class horse tomorrow and I think 11/4 is far too big a price. He went in my notebook when he was beat in the Dante last year and tomorrow is the day to cash in imo.
Hardwicke
Ektihaam
€20 win 11/4 (PP)June 21, 2013 at 20:15 #443569- €1.25
June 21, 2013 at 20:17 #443570Leading Light saved today from being a complete whitewash, with a typically tough performance. I can’t help but like him, the way he keeps grinding things out when challenger after challenger laid it down to him. I know Darren and Gord have different opinions on him but I’m with Darren: he’s a Gold Cup horse.
June 24, 2013 at 21:38 #443932I was one of the ones lucky enough to have backed
Ektihaam
with Paddy Power but his form was boosted nonetheless by the ill-fated Thomas Chippendale proving too good for the rest. Hat tip to those on TAPK’s thread for pointing out Hills still have Al Kazeem in their King George market, with Ektihaam a juicy 12/1.
King George
Ektihaam
€10 e/w @ 12/1 (WH)- €21.25
June 25, 2013 at 21:16 #444018Posted this in the
General Sports
part of the forum but going to post it here too because I know there’s a few avid golfers among you!
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Has anyone ever experienced what I consider to be the most chronic shot in all of golf and possibly any sport: the dreaded shank.
The reason I ask is, you’ve guessed it, I’ve come down with an awful dose of them.
I’ve recently got back into the golf after an absence of about 7 or 8 months and my first couple of rounds were very good. I’m an 11 handicap and I shot +6 and +4 on my first 2 rounds back on a local 12 hole course. Since then however my game has got progressively worse up until this evening when I had my worst round I can remember. I wasn’t keeping score but I’d say you wouldn’t have needed too many hands to count my stableford score.
The reason for it is simple: the shank. My first shank was a week ago which I followed with another, and then another one later in the round. Today I shanked a grand total of ten shots, losing 8 balls as a direct result. The course I play is situated on the coast in high winds and desperately hard rough, so accuracy off the tee is crucial. I’m a relatively big hitter and I’d often elect to hit a 3 iron off the tee on par 4’s and 5’s, and used to be able flush my irons into the middle of the fairway every time. Not so anymore.
And it’s not just the long irons either. 2 out of the 4 par 3’s today I shanked 7 irons off the tee. Every time I grab an iron all I can think of is shanking it.
And it’s not as if I’m playing poorly in all aspects of my game, for instance I’m pinging my approach shots from < 130 yards and my putting has been better than it has ever been.
I’m going to ring the pro in the golf club first thing in the morning for a lesson, and I hope it’s something relatively simple I’m doing wrong. I know I’m not standing too close to the ball but it could be something to do with my swing path perhaps? I’m hooking a fair few balls too, from driver down to PW so maybe the two problems are connected. The hook is something I’d be confident of working out on my own but the shank has me completely perplexed and has really put me in a bad mood to be honest.

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Anybody else ever get them?
June 25, 2013 at 22:03 #444022Posted this in the
General Sports
part of the forum but going to post it here too because I know there’s a few avid golfers among you!
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Has anyone ever experienced what I consider to be the most chronic shot in all of golf and possibly any sport: the dreaded shank.
The reason I ask is, you’ve guessed it, I’ve come down with an awful dose of them.
I’ve recently got back into the golf after an absence of about 7 or 8 months and my first couple of rounds were very good. I’m an 11 handicap and I shot +6 and +4 on my first 2 rounds back on a local 12 hole course. Since then however my game has got progressively worse up until this evening when I had my worst round I can remember. I wasn’t keeping score but I’d say you wouldn’t have needed too many hands to count my stableford score.
The reason for it is simple: the shank. My first shank was a week ago which I followed with another, and then another one later in the round. Today I shanked a grand total of ten shots, losing 8 balls as a direct result. The course I play is situated on the coast in high winds and desperately hard rough, so accuracy off the tee is crucial. I’m a relatively big hitter and I’d often elect to hit a 3 iron off the tee on par 4’s and 5’s, and used to be able flush my irons into the middle of the fairway every time. Not so anymore.
And it’s not just the long irons either. 2 out of the 4 par 3’s today I shanked 7 irons off the tee. Every time I grab an iron all I can think of is shanking it.
And it’s not as if I’m playing poorly in all aspects of my game, for instance I’m pinging my approach shots from < 130 yards and my putting has been better than it has ever been.
I’m going to ring the pro in the golf club first thing in the morning for a lesson, and I hope it’s something relatively simple I’m doing wrong. I know I’m not standing too close to the ball but it could be something to do with my swing path perhaps? I’m hooking a fair few balls too, from driver down to PW so maybe the two problems are connected. The hook is something I’d be confident of working out on my own but the shank has me completely perplexed and has really put me in a bad mood to be honest.

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Anybody else ever get them?
Hi mate – i’m a keen golfer myself, have been playing since i was little and i’m 28 ths year!!
I have experienced the shanks on many occasions and i can 100% relate to what you are going through, they are like a bloody disease!!
My problem is that i never know when they are going to appear but last summer i had the worst dose yet so decided to book a few lessons with a friend of mine that happens to be the club pro.
Now bearing in mind i play off 17 this does seem a little strange given you instructions but here’s basially what he said and how to prevent them.
The shank is effectively where the ball makes contact with the ‘shank’ of the club or hossle (where the shaft meets the club face). Now you may be doing something different in your swing but the cause of my shanks were because that during the downswing my upper body was collapsing at the hips (moving forward), forcing the club further away which results in the ball contacting with the hossle as opposed to the middle of the club face.
To overcome this the pro had me doing a simple exercise which was basically the reverse of the above. On the downswing i simply keep my weight on the back of my feet which meant i couldnt collapse forward. Once the shanks were forgotten so was this simple exercise and some good scores turned up!
The above probably makes as much sense as that Ascot form from last week. Anyway hope you’re stripping it again soon.
PS – Enjoy the thread, nice one!!
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