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  • #390227
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    Zarkava

    We’ve heard what you don’t fancy, The Irish contingent, now lets hear what you DO fancy, your forecast of the 1-2-3 on Sunday and 1-2-3 in The Gold Cup

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    Quel Esprit beating 2 slow plodders on Sunday.

    Long Run beating 1 slow plodder followed by a non-staying Kauto Star in the Gold Cup.

    Rewind the clock 10 years and they wouldn’t see which way Beef or Salmon and Best Mate went. Rancid standard of 3m chasers at the moment.

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    National types have a bit of history placing. Quito and burtons fit the bill there.

    I agree we have a weak 3 mile division, hence my loyaly to Long Run.

    Next year will be belting though and i am tempted to get Al Ferof for the king george now. he will only shorten as long as he places in the arkle.

    I am concerned how many gigginstown horses i fancy, which is a lot down to superstition which is nonsence, atleast they are spread accross a nice blend of irish trainers.

    Another thing, got a lot of irish horses in my portfolio. mmmmm

    Not much has impressed me this side of the water, Fingal, LR, and the arkle boys.

    I suspect Twiston Davies will land a nice prize with one of his low rated handicap chasers. Quietish season but March is the time for his yard. Like Astracad for the annual and love educated evans jumping.

    Anyway, this irish card looks fantastic. Really must get over to Ireland for one of the festivals.

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    I honestly can’t see Magnanimity beating Boston’s Angel they have met at least 3 times and Boston’s has come out on top each time?
    Boston is a general 7’1 I would rather take a chance with him.
    The only one I would be worried about, would be Quel Espirit if his jumping does’nt let him down!!

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    Am i the only 1 that fancies jessies dream? I’ve him backed e/w at 10/1 already and will prob go in again sunday if he’s 8/1 or more,I might be letting my heart rule my head here a bit as he has done me a few nice turns already but i really rate him!

    Gordon has always thought of him as a superstar and i hope he’s found to be right come the end of the season.
    He was second to Bostons Angel in the Rsa last year despite pulling for most of the race,turning for home he looked all over the winner and then up the run in he lugged badly to the right and when Murphy eventually got him straightened up he started coming again, Magnanimity was running on well that day also and i might have a small bet on him too but i think last year was Bostons Angels day in the sun and we may have seen the best of him-what evidence have i got?Nothing really other than his poor run over in England but i just have that feeling! :?

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    Jessie’s Dream out of the Hennessy and probably the Festival. Gordon Elliotto reported that he had ‘no sparkle in his work today’.

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    Sorry Fran that is the cruellest way jinx.

    Stop talking about third intention on saturday please!!! :)

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    Jessie’s Dream out of the Hennessy and probably the Festival. Gordon Elliotto reported that he had ‘no sparkle in his work today’.

    Gordon Elliott’s Italian cousin was speaking on his behalf, if anybody was wondering.

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    My 1st time posting on here in a few months and i give one of my favourite horses the kiss of death :roll: Not good at all :oops:

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    Well it looks like Jessie’s dream has bit the dust. Makes my e/w on Magnanimity look just a little better.

    I had him with Victor Chandler at 16s and I thought that was a decent price. I went back in when for some reason Hills went 25-1, I thought that was over generous. They (Hills) have just cut to 20-1 when he is generally 14s and 16s elsewhere. I still think that is overly generous. I do expect Quel Esprit to win, but maybe he might have an off day.

    Venjee….I take you point, Magnanimity has indeed finished behind Boston’s Angel on the three occasions they have met. But I would say on the last two occasions there has been nothing between them (beaten a head and beaten less than 1 length after making two bad mistakes which cost him ground in the RSA). I know it sounds like I am making excuses for him, I suppose I am, I just think that with a tad more luck the placings could have been reversed.

    I don’t think there is much between the two horses and Boston’s Angel may confirm what you feel on Sunday. It’s an interesting race.

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    I am actually not looking to bet in Ireland this weekend. Some of the markets are very odd. i don’t understand why Conan is favourite in the deloitte. I’d go for 3 of the irish horses before him here and at the festival.

    Equally, last week big zeb was se were the different way than expected.

    Also, what a friend shorter in the denman chase than burton port yet the other way in gold cup betting?

    Also quito shorter than synchronised in the hennessy. Reversed heavily in the gold cup.

    Baffling, granted they are trials and some will not be hammering it 100% but reversal all over ze place.

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    I am actually not looking to bet in Ireland this weekend. Some of the markets are very odd. i don’t understand why Conan is favourite in the deloitte. I’d go for 3 of the irish horses before him here and at the festival.

    Bookies love a novice hurdler who’s been talked up and won a decent race on his debut. Make him favourite, completely underprice him and hope the punters bite.

    Also, what a friend shorter in the denman chase than burton port yet the other way in gold cup betting?

    Burton Port will come on for the run after being out for near enough 18 months.

    Also quito shorter than synchronised in the hennessy. Reversed heavily in the gold cup.

    Huge doubt whether Synchronised runs or not.

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    Explains all really. My point being i just don’t really want to bet in the races.

    Probably the two most important days before the festival this weekend.

    God i hate late february.

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    Explains all really. My point being i just don’t really want to bet in the races.

    Probably the two most important days before the festival this weekend.

    God i hate late february.

    Makes great viewing though :wink:

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    The Christmas period and the trials in February are just about the worst things you can possibly bet on. Would rather bet on the Breeders’ Cup tbh. It’s as bad as that.

    The only possible thing I’d have a bet on would be Sprinter Sacre in the Game Spirit, but I don’t want him to win and I’d be delighted if he were tailed off, so no point putting money on him.

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    Bye bye, Quito de la Roque. Bad scope.

    #390388
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    Bye bye, Quito de la Roque. Bad scope.

    OK I’m on at 10/1 ew now, looks a safe EW, MrsCS is having a laugh at me though, she’s on at 20/1 ew for Sunday

    EDIT : That’s MAGNANIMITY ….obviously

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