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Any news on the Defoe run….?
Outclassed, surely?
Yeah agree, just that Atzeni reckoned Defoe had so much petrol left at the end of the last race.
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Defoe looked to be eased off to come home in his own time once Andrea knew he wouldn’t figure. May be the good ground was not conducive to showing his very best. Has a very rounded action. But although it’s possible to say his form wasn’t up to the first three’s anyway… Should’ve done a lot better.
Value Is EverythingMaybe they will take action if something clips heels running onto the back of it near the end and horses are fatally injured and jockeys helicoptered off with injuries like Ana O’Brien sustained a little while back, or worse. I know accidents happen, but are more likely when a horse ridden at practically 10f pace in a 14f race is on or near the rail coming back through the field.
Trouble is Greenasgrass, the stewards don’t understand the rules so won’t act.
I was in the stands watching the 2015 Steventon Stakes over 1m2f at Newbury. There was plenty of money late on for the winner Intilaaq in to 2/1; whilst his owner companion Mustadeem ridden by Sean Levey had been weak, out to 15/2. When the gates opened Mustadeem was ridden, ridden as if he were in a sprint. Obviously tired soon after entering the home straight. Kept up to his work but the writing was on the wall; falling away. I wasn’t going to let it go without trying to do something, so went to the stewards to ask them to hold an enquirey. Eventually got to see them and stood in front of the panel had this conversation with the Stewards Secretary (head of the stewards panel) ex-jockey Chris Rutter went something like this:
Me: Are you holding an enquirey in to that race?
Chris: No, why?
Me: Because the leader went off at 6f pace.
Chris: What if he did?
Me: He could never sustain that pace and imo was a non-trier.
Chris: It is entirely up to connections how fast a horse goes.
Me: But he went 6f pace when racing at 10f?
Chris: If the trainer is happy with the ride then we are happy, have you asked Brian Meehan?
Me: No; but are you saying as long as the trainer is happy the jockey can go as fast as he wants?
Chris: That’s right.
…And was led away before I could say any more.No enqirey was held.
My Timeform said:
“A slightly unusual race, in that Mustadeem set a suicidal pace…
Mustadeem: Run best ignored, going off far too fast for his own good, though he had a hard race and may take time to recover; forced pace, went clear after 1f, 20 lengths clear halfway, ridden over 2f out, folded completely, headed over 1f out, heavily eased off, finished tired”.Before that encounter I probably had more faith in British stewarding than the average punter. Not now.
Value Is EverythingMaybe they will take action if something clips heels running onto the back of it near the end and horses are fatally injured and jockeys helicoptered off with injuries like Ana O’Brien sustained a little while back, or worse. I know accidents happen, but are more likely when a horse ridden at practically 10f pace in a 14f race is on or near the rail coming back through the field.
Trouble is Greenasgrass, the stewards don’t understand the rules so won’t act.
I was in the stands watching the 2015 Steventon Stakes over 1m2f at Newbury. There was plenty of money late on for the winner Intilaaq in to 2/1; whilst his owner companion Mustadeem ridden by Sean Levey had been weak, out to 15/2. When the gates opened Mustadeem was ridden, ridden as if he were in a sprint. Obviously tired soon after entering the home straight. Kept up to his work but the writing was on the wall; falling away. I wasn’t going to let it go without trying to do something, so went to the stewards to ask them to hold an enquirey. Eventually got to see them and stood in front of the stewards panel had this conversation with the Stewards Secretary (head of the stewards panel) ex-jockey Chris Rutter went something like this:
Me: Are you holding an enquirey in to that race?
Chris: No, why?
Me: Because the leader went off at 6f pace.
Chris: What if he did?
Me: He could never sustain that pace and imo was a non-trier.
Chris: It is entirely up to connections how fast a horse goes.
Me: But he went 6f pace when racing at 10f?
Chris: If the trainer is happy with the ride then we are happy, have you asked Brian Meehan?
Me: No; but are you saying as long as the trainer is happy the jockey can go as fast as he wants?
Chris: That’s right.
…And was led away before I could say any more.No enqirey was held.
My Timeform said:
“A slightly unusual race, in that Mustadeem set a suicidal pace…
Mustadeem: Run best ignored, going off far too fast for his own good, though he had a hard race and may take time to recover; forced pace, went clear after 1f, 20 lengths clear halfway, ridden over 2f out, folded completely, headed over 1f out, heavily eased off, finished tired”.Before that encounter I probably had more faith in British stewarding than the average punter. Not now.
As an aside, do you have to pay to keep your own notes on Timeform or is it a premium/paid for thing?
Hussey lost his head a bit today and effectively admitted that after the race. It was a waste of an entry fee too as he was ignored in front after he shot clear.
As to a horse running on its merits, it looks to me that the rules do not cover crazy pacemakers (an omission by intent perhaps).
59. Failure to run a horse on its merits
59.1 A Rider of a horse shall be taken to have contravened the requirement imposed on him by Rule 58.1 in each of the following cases.
59.2 Case 1 is where the Stewards or the Authority consider that the Rider has intentionally failed to ensure that his horse is run on its merits.
59.3 Case 2 is where the Stewards or the Authority consider
59.3.1 that there was no intentional disregard of the requirement that the horse be run on its merits, but
59.3.2 that the horse has not achieved its best possible placing because the Rider
59.3.2.1 failed to ride out approaching the finish on a horse that would have been placed first, second, third, fourth or in any other placing for which there is prize money,
59.3.2.2 mistook the race distance and either began riding a finish too early or failed to ride a finish,
59.3.2.3 took the wrong course, or
59.3.2.4 asked for an effort or made some other permissible manoeuvre too late as a result of serious misjudgement or inattention.
Coronation stakes
Cup.
It will be fascinating to see if Capri can maintain his superiority over Crystal Ocean next year for, although the latter is the more lightly raced and is trained by a man renowned for developing older horses, today’s winner strikes me as the type who only just does enough- if anything, he won a shade comfortably today. If they both stay in training in 2018, their clashes with Cracksman should be worth going a long way to see.
Hmmm yeah but these great plans never work out do they, no doubt at least one will get injured and go to stud earlier than expected
think cracksman would have walked that race yesterday if he had run in it personally
Also the thing about only doing enough- I tend to think that gets overplayed- generally horses that “only do enough” haven’t actually got anything left in the tank.
One thing I have learned from this years classics is it’s pointless spending months overanalysing them- just back O’Brien and leave the brain at home is sadly the way forward.
All about opinions of course but I think that was one of the best legers we’ve had for years and that capri is a very good horse. The coronation cup could be a cracker as could the king george next season. The result could have been decided when unusually aiden quickly suggested that capri was going for the leger before he missed the voltigeur which meant he was trained for the race without the lads messing up the training routine as they sometimes do when waiting weeks to decide which top races horses are going to.
Simon Rowlands sectional analysis confirms the time was fast, but room to be faster still. Final 3f being run quicker than earlier fractions.
Value Is EverythingStradivarius lost nothing in defeat and should return to the Cup ranks as one of the leading forces next year. Likewise Rekindling, who I’d love to back for the Ascot Gold Cup on the back of such a dour staying effort. There’s more to come from this one, especially at extreme distances.
Agree with that assessment, LS.
Sorry, taken all the betfair 21/1 and 20/1 Rekindling for the Long Distance Cup on Champion’s Day.Will Stradivarius run on Champion’s Day?
Have you got an account with VCbet?
I see they’re 10/1 Stradivarius for next year’s Ascot Gold Cup, that won’t last either.Value Is Everything
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