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- February 26, 2018 at 16:22 #1344091
For the season with suspensory ligament. That’s 3 leading British trained hopes that have bitten the dust in less than a week.
February 26, 2018 at 17:34 #1344096Makes you wonder which came first? Cue Card decision or Fox Norton ruled out?
With front running tactics bringing a better jumping display, did wonder whether CC going GC would’ve been against their other horse, Native River also likes a prominent position. CC coming here will also be against Un De Seaux’s chance (UDS didn’t settle when innitially held up in this last year and Walsh had no choice but give him his head. CC is sure to go a fast pace and if UDS pulls his way to the front this time around will likely be going too quick. In those circumstances will UDS stay?
Value Is EverythingFebruary 26, 2018 at 17:41 #1344099Given the absence of the noseband on Cue Card last time, I wouldn’t assume that any jumping improvement was down to front-running, although the horse, in general, looked much happier being ridden the way he always used to be.
Perhaps no journo has asked, but I’d like to hear Tizzard’s reasoning for the removal of the noseband, especially given the way Cue Card was smashing into fences when falling.
February 26, 2018 at 17:47 #1344100I was wondering that too, Ginger. When the CC decision was made they must’ve had an idea all was not well with FN.
After the big freeze up there is a bit of rain in the Cheltenham long range forecast pretty much every day as far as the forecast goes (Sun 11th) so, apart from your point above, will UDS stay 2m 5f on Soft up the hill anyway -possibly on French G2/G3 form but it’s somewhat unknown territory in a Brit/Irish G1 and didn’t stay in French G1 at 3m+. If it is Soft surely WP will run – and win!
February 26, 2018 at 17:54 #1344101Didn’t have a grackle bit either, Joe. Think they just decided to go back to basics, take everything off (including Cobden!), ride the horse prominently and go for it. Lo and behold 178 (oh no! let’s not start that
argument again!!)February 26, 2018 at 22:24 #1344147I wonder if Tizzard/Bishop ever keep their press clippings?
If so, you would think that the synovial hinge joint between the humerus in the upper arm and the radius and ulna in the forearm should be more acquainted with the inter-gluteal cleft, than seems to be the case for this outfit.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
February 27, 2018 at 10:48 #1344173Even without Fox Norton still has the potential to be a cracker.
It will be interesting to see if UDS charges out in front like last year or he races like he did last time. With the atmostphere i think we will see the mad UDS.
In this case i think its a case of whether Waiting Patiently can travel so smoothly and pick him up late on. I would probably imagine he can as for me UDS was punctured at the finish last year, no wonder given how fast he went but still….i am not sure if sectionals back this up but that’s the visual impression i got.
Top Notch underperformed for me in the Ascot Chase by some way, and will run a decent race and maybe place. He has course form, and will appreciate the better ground. I am not sure he is good enough to beat either but i don’t think he’s as far off as some do (from the Ascot Chase thread).
Balko Des Flos has fair claims too and the spring ground (if spring exists this year) will suit him big time.
The other Mullins that are priced up are hard to second guess but i’d imagine they wont trouble to winner anyway…Douvan for me doesnt make chelt, Min goes CC. Yorkhill has been muted for the Champ hurdle, but for me he would be most intersting in this. Ruby would have some decision! Benie DD is another possible if vroum vroum and LD go to mares.
Cloudy Dream would be in with a shout of placing, the way he travels, jumps but vunerable for win purposes.
I would be inclined to side with WP if the ground doesn’t recover too much…but i will certainly wait now to see what way the ground goes.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!February 27, 2018 at 11:13 #1344177If this forecast turns out to be prophetic, Soft at the very best:
http://www.myweather2.com/Horse-Racing/United-Kingdom/Cheltenham-Racecourse/14-Day-Forecast.aspx
February 27, 2018 at 12:05 #1344181Thanks for that GM.
Had a look at the forecast, think it’ll be good-soft at its goodest.
Therefore have just taken all the 7.2 and 7 Waiting Patiently available.Value Is EverythingFebruary 27, 2018 at 12:13 #1344182Uds loves soft too don’t forget
February 27, 2018 at 12:14 #1344183TWM was about to post over CC thread…..2m5 on soft thought might be a different kettle of fish….i am not jumping on the “its going to be soft” wagon yet…but hes best at 2mile on soft isn’t he?!
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!February 27, 2018 at 12:46 #1344188Uds would go cc if it was soft.
February 27, 2018 at 13:00 #1344189Uds loves soft too don’t forget
As I said earlier TWM:
CC coming here will also be against Un De Seaux’s chance (UDS didn’t settle when innitially held up in this last year and Walsh had no choice but give him his head. CC is sure to go a fast pace and if UDS pulls his way to the front this time around will likely be going too quick. In those circumstances will UDS stay?

UDS stays 2m5f and acts well on soft ground, but will he stay 2m5f on soft ground?
If good ground and taken on for the lead (doesn’t settle) might not get home this time… If Soft ground that would place even more emphasis on stamina. Had it been soft last year imo UDS would not have won.
Value Is EverythingFebruary 27, 2018 at 14:47 #1344212Think UDS will go RyanAir, even on soft. The only way I could see him go to CC would be if Min and Douvan pulled out and the ground was heavy
February 27, 2018 at 16:05 #1344223Not that he won’t go to the Ryanair, Vautour; it’s whether he’ll stay and/or be good enough.
Value Is EverythingFebruary 27, 2018 at 16:15 #1344226Theyv said multiple times on good ground he can “just” get the trip, on soft or heavy 2m would be his distance
February 27, 2018 at 16:48 #1344231I can’t see the ground being an issue whether it be soft or good. Un De Sceaux has the course, distance and ground form.
I can’t see him going off any bigger than 9/4 even if Waiting Patiently did turn up; a likelihood I still think is more unlikely than likely.
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