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Re. Disko, he had a problem with his hock which was the reason he missed the big race in Ireland. They were still able to train in him on the treadmill to keep him fit.
Read it about 10 days ago somewhere, can’t remember where like.
May be it’s nothing much, but fact Disko hasn’t run since early November must mean he’s difficult to keep 100% sound. One to be interested in nearer the time, me thinks.
Value Is EverythingWould be interested to hear anyone’s thoughts on Waiting Patiently in this as I don’t think I have seen him mentioned on here since his romp at Kempton on Saturday.
I know big Malc has said they will need soft in the description before they run him but there has to be a good chance they get the ground,unless they decide to go the Champion Chase route with him which I think would be lunacy!
UDS isn’t getting any younger and while Top Notch is a horse I admire,I wouldn’t be scared of him either.Most of the rest at the head of the betting will surely run elsewhere.
I had a decent punt on him at 20/1 for this about an hour before the race and am feeling rather smug,so I need some shrewd judges to take me down a peg or two!
He’s a smashing horse, unbeaten since joining Jefferson but will need to progress again and get soft ground to take his chance.
I think he can improve but I’d rather back something less ground dependent, like Fox Norton or Top Notch. Hopefully he lines up because it would make this a cracking race.
I like the Ryanair. I know some turn their nose up to it but it’s often one of the best races at the festival.
By the sounds of things it’s more unlikely than likely he’ll run at the festival. And if it did happen to tip it down in the days leading up to Cheltenham they’ll probably chance their arm in the Champion Chase with Waiting Patiently.
Thanks for the opinions chaps and excellent work on dampening my enthusiasm!
I don’t think he is quite as ground dependent as some think.That was genuine good to soft at Kempton last weekend and he handled it beautifully,as long as it isn’t a road then I think he will take his chance.
They can’t keep missing the big festivals with a horse that has the potential that this one has.We all know how that Mr Claisse loves his watering can so I’m hopeful!
As said up the top of this page. With Disko under a cloud I was struggling to come to a Ryanair selection. Now taken a chance with Waiting Patiently @ 10/1 for the “Vs Pricewise” competition. If having your 20/1 MC would go in now myself, but at half that won’t bet yet as the ground is a worry. Good-soft will be fine and going reports are often softer than what should be described, so suspect it’s better than 50-50 he’ll run.
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Totally with you, and wouldn’t dampen your enthusiasm at all. A very very good horse, and the potential to go to the top. I really hope we see him there, and hopefully in The Ryanair, though couldn’t argue with Charles either, and not out of the question that it’ll be Champion Chase.@MarkTT
Yeah, totally agree. Ryanair has quickly became one of the best races at The Festival, just behind The Gold Cup & Champion Hurdle. It’s quite strange how people turn their nose up at it, as it’s been nothing but a success. I’ve heard all the angles people give for being against it, and none of them have much foundation.I’ve taken 33s EW NRNB about American Tom , who runs in the Kinloch Brae tomorrow. It’s not a great renewal of the race and I’m hoping that, in receipt of 8lb from his main rivals, he can win decently enough to be sent here. I thought he was good before his poor run and fall last year- hope he can come good this year.
my objection to the Ryanair is how it dilutes the quality of the real championship races; e.g Vautour would have possibly won the Gold Cup, Uxixandre the 2 mile chase + Don Cossack the Gold Cup, last year UDS the 2 mile chase.
He’s a smashing horse
Agree 100% with everything you’ve said there.
Matt Chapman, as much as I think he’s great for racing, has been against the Ryanair for years but I think it’s great. It’s very often won by a championship standard horse.
That’s a fair argument, however, it’s the chanpionship race affectively for 2 and a half milers.
Vautaur wouldn’t have stayed a Gold Cup but the 2m4 of a Ryanair was his optimum trip in my opinion and showed him at his best. Un De Sceaux wants further than 2m in a Champion Chase in my opinion. Uxizandre was a strange winner in a strange race. Don Cossack used the race as a stepping stone didn’t he? Which is perfectly reasonable if a trainer feels that the horse isn’t quite gold cup standard yet but wants festival experience.
I like the Ryanair.
Do we know Vautour wouldn’t have won a Gold Cup? Do we? And you’d be a hard man to argue that Un De Sceaux wouldn’t have won the Champion Chase last year.
I think the majority of the public would rather see the best horses taking each other on and so in that sense it’d be better for the sport in general if we could now start promoting Un De Sceaux vs Altior vs Politologue vs Top Notch rather than Altior vs Politologue and then a day later Un De Sceaux vs Top Notch. And if you’re that big a fan of 2m4f level weights chases then go to Aintree in April and watch the Melling Chase.
Charles, what is wrong with a middle distance race though? Whilst i understand you are saying it would be better having them all face off.
There is no issue to me having this race, i mean, not all horses are 2milers or 3milers, and after all its the a 4 day festival.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!The right race for yorkhill is the Ryanair, and the right race for un de sceaux and min is the champion chase. Douvan won’t run. Willie is generally too cautious to run him.
If yorkhill runs in this and altior doesn’t make it then he may win, but that still wouldn’t mean it was the right race. He won over 2.5 miles at Cheltenham last year so why change?
Un de sceaux should be aimed at this. He really is a 2 mile horse and was only beaten thanks to a fabulous performance by Sprinter Sacre and a slightly poor ride by Ruby. Those things considered I think UDS should be the Mullins and Walsh combo for the champion chase and yorkhill for the ryanair
Are people completely writing off Min then? As it stands I’m ready to give him another chance. Its entirely possible he simply bounced last time, but am I not right in saying that when a horse bounces they run dramatically below form? While there is no doubt he ran below his best, I don’t think it was dramatically so. Over course and distance last season he beat Ordinary World by 9l, he had him beaten by 15l this time.
Simply Ned has ran to 161 before, higher than Min ever has over fences. Is it possible Simply Ned ran to a career best that day? Perhaps even mid 160’s? Not likely, but on a line through Ordinary World, it is possible. Timeform have him at ‘159?’indicating they’re not quite where to put him.
So with Min running below form, and Simply Ned perhaps running to a career best, is it a bit early to be writing the obituary? Its a strenuous excuse to say the least, and maybe Min was simply well below form, whether this is because of the bounce factor or not we won’t find out until his nest race I suppose.
The situation reminds me of Vautour getting a 17l beating off Clarcam at the same meeting in 2014. Vautour was able to leave that form well behind him, we all saw what he did in the JLT that year. Min could very well do the same, he’ll need to if he’s ever going to face Altior.
The Grade 2 Dublin Chase should be revealing. Despite the damage it would do to my bank balance, I would prefer to see Yorkhill here and Min in the Champion Chase.
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