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  • #354006
    Anonymous
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    My point is, as one of the sport’s best jockeys, as a three-time champion jockey, should he not be persuaded to be a little more open to the media and public. Should help be available to him to overcome his shyness if that is indeed what is preventing him from being more open.

    Get real,

    OneEye

    . Ryan Moore is currently managing the extreme balancing act of riding for Aidan O’Brien and Michael Stoute, whilst satisfying both camps. No surly, uncommunicative curmudgeon could manage the trick as well as he seems to be doing.

    Did you see him smiling and sharing a joke with the connections of the Vase winner yesterday? No. Did you see how superbly he judged the pace on Await the Dawn? Evidently not. All you can see is the fact that he’s not putting on a circus act for the

    hoi polloi

    .

    Well, tough. We don’t have to fill racing with all-singing, all-dancing muppets, for your benefit,

    Himself

    ‘s offspring, or anyone else. Most racing people will respect the man’s talent, good character and quiet demeanour. That is all that should matter. The rest simply is not your business.

    Moore and Fallon are as good PR for racing, in their way, as the admirable Dettori is in his. We need a variety of styles, not one single one larded with happy gas and sticky syrup.

    Oh, and

    shy syndrome

    is only a recognised disease in the USA. No pills or shrink treatment for it here, please.

    #354008
    Venusian
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    I have to say I find his surly, uncooperative manner and his inability to construct intelligible sentences rather off-putting.

    Regardless of how "shy" he is, he needs to be made aware that good manners cost nothing, and of his responsibilities to the public at large.

    #354010
    Avatar photoDrone
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    I listened to Clarke and Bronowski, mesmerised, though I wouldn’t trust them to negotiate the twists and turns of Chester

    I watched Piggott and Cauthen, mesmerised, though I wouldn’t trust them to negotiate the Renaissance and Euclid

    Why are sportsfolk expected to be confident, erudite, loquacious public-speakers?

    They are blessed with co-ordinated arms and legs, lucky them. You can’t have it all…

    …unless your name is CB Fry

    #354011
    Avatar photoHimself
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    Pinza, we are all entitled to our opinion, whether it be you, me, OneEye, or even my "offspring." :roll:

    "Good manners don’t cost nuthin" ( the cockney bloke on Dark Side Of The Moon :wink: ) and in Ryan Moore’s case, not only has he bad manners but he is dull as dishwater.

    I don’t buy the fact that he is somehow stressed by his two "important" jobs or that his overt shyness precludes him from being nice. That is just horse manure !

    The majority of jockeys of both codes are polite and accommodating when interviewed and I can see NO reason whatsoever why Ryan Moore CHOOSES to be the polar opposite.

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

    #354017
    Anonymous
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    The majority of jockeys of both codes are polite and accommodating when interviewed and I can see NO reason whatsoever why Ryan Moore CHOOSES to be the polar opposite.

    Himself

    : You might as well blame an apple for not being a banana.

    Choice

    does not come into it. Or do you believe that shy and reserved people

    choose

    their character?

    Nor is he "stressed" by riding for both stables: just clear-headed enough to realise that in his tricky position the last ginger group he needs to shoot his mouth off to after a winning ride for either is

    the meja

    .

    It’s called

    political tact

    , or in better societies

    wisdom

    . Only his ill-wishers could call Moore "inarticulate".

    #354035
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    It amazes me anyone bothers to interview a jockey after a race anyway. Can they say anything different to what has been said before? Seems to me every winning jockey says the same thing.

    May be another thing Moore is uncomfortable with is: He sees a microphone coming towards him and thinks "What the xxxx do you expect me to say? What can I say that is any different? Oh I know…".
    If there is anything negative about the horse, do we really expect the jockey to say so, and risk not getting the ride next time / any time in the future?

    Value Is Everything
    #354041
    Anonymous
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    She wanted to know why "that jockey" was being so belligerent and moody

    Hmm. I just asked Ryan for the answer. His reply was "Why is his daughter being so judgemental and assertive when she doesn’t know me from a bar of soap?"

    Well not really …….. :lol:

    But perhaps the mythical response from Ryan is something you and your daughter need to consider :?:

    #354043
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    I don’t think there’s many jockeys out there like him, he is mad keen and is brilliant at what he does.

    I have only ever seen one young jockey do that on a regular basis. He was a seventeen year old apprentice at the time but spent many an afternoon at the leading sales ring taking vast notes. That young man is now well established as a top flight senior jockey in Australia – Michael Rodd. Some don’t think he has a lot of personality either. Great kid.

    #354088
    Avatar photoOneEye
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    My point is, as one of the sport’s best jockeys, as a three-time champion jockey, should he not be persuaded to be a little more open to the media and public. Should help be available to him to overcome his shyness if that is indeed what is preventing him from being more open.

    Get real,

    OneEye

    . Ryan Moore is currently managing the extreme balancing act of riding for Aidan O’Brien and Michael Stoute, whilst satisfying both camps. No surly, uncommunicative curmudgeon could manage the trick as well as he seems to be doing.

    Did you see him smiling and sharing a joke with the connections of the Vase winner yesterday? No. Did you see how superbly he judged the pace on Await the Dawn? Evidently not. All you can see is the fact that he’s not putting on a circus act for the

    hoi polloi

    .

    Well, tough. We don’t have to fill racing with all-singing, all-dancing muppets, for your benefit,

    Himself

    ‘s offspring, or anyone else. Most racing people will respect the man’s talent, good character and quiet demeanour. That is all that should matter. The rest simply is not your business.

    Moore and Fallon are as good PR for racing, in their way, as the admirable Dettori is in his. We need a variety of styles, not one single one larded with happy gas and sticky syrup.

    Oh, and

    shy syndrome

    is only a recognised disease in the USA. No pills or shrink treatment for it here, please.

    Any relation to Moore, Pinza :?

    You said, "Well, tough. We don’t have to fill racing with all-singing, all-dancing muppets, for your benefit,

    Himself

    ‘s offspring, or anyone else."

    And that’s exactly why racing is as un-popular now as it has ever been, because people like Ryan Moore do nothing to connect with the public.

    But as you rightly say, they don’t have to be all-singing, all-dancing muppets for our sake as we will still follow racing regardless, but if racings wants to attract ‘new’ people to the game then perhaps something needs to be done to make the likes of Moore more media friendly.

    Or perhaps Moore could just take a leaf out of Paul Hannagan’s book on how to be a champion on and off the racetrack :)

    #354109
    andyod
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    I just finished reading the report on St. N. Abbey in the Sporting Life. Seemed like Ryan could not shut up!I knew I had won by the time I got to the start he said. Could anyone be more effusive?

    #354118
    Anonymous
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    But as you rightly say, they don’t have to be all-singing, all-dancing muppets for our sake as we will still follow racing regardless, but if racings wants to attract ‘new’ people to the game then perhaps something needs to be done to make the likes of Moore more media friendly.

    Penny-in-the-slot stuff, culled from RfC brochures and the Gospel According to Rod. No evidence for it, of course.

    To talk seriously, though:

    youf

    tends to take any icon who shoves two fingers up

    the meja

    to its communal heart. So the most sensible course might be to encourage the sullen, rude and inarticulate Moore

    (of your fantasy)

    to trash a couple of cameras, urinate on Lydia Hislop and push Big Mac into the Dee. Now that would get

    lots

    of publicity for Racing. And encourage millions of young kids to stream towards Towcester.

    #354132
    Avatar photocormack15
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    One L.Piggott was never known for his media-friendly persona, in fact anything but, as Derek Thompson would testify, yet was the greatest of all ambassadors for racing.

    #354135
    Avatar photoAdmiralofthefleet
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    But not exactly a good and dutiful British citizen given his tax returns :roll:

    #354155
    andyod
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    From what I read ,not paying taxes is according to GE and Bank of America a mark of distinction and a badge of honor.And incidentally a sign that you have made it in America.How many failed the tax test when offered a federal appointment by the President. Most first choices.OK many first choices.

    #354161
    Anonymous
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    One L.Piggott was never known for his media-friendly persona, in fact anything but, as Derek Thompson would testify, yet was the greatest of all ambassadors for racing.

    Quite. No singing-dancing muppet he. Yet still a household name to rank with the greatest of any sport.

    #354181
    Avatar photoAdmiralofthefleet
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    Ok Andygod how about you file fraudulent tax returns and let me know how you get ok|?

    Not possible of course if you are on the PAYE system!

    #354184
    andyod
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    Sorry to say I am much too poor to get away with any crime.

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