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    Avatar photoImperial Call
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    Paddy Power prices:

    Cousin Vinny 2/1
    Hurricane Fly 5/2
    Fisher Bridge 9/2
    Donnas Palm 6/1
    Vital Plot 9/1
    Tramp Stamp 12/1
    Healys Bar 20/1
    Aura About You 40/1

    #193020
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    Cousin Vinny declared to run on Sunday with Patrick Mullins riding. Paul Townend will ride Hurricane Fly. Be very interesting to see how they fare in the market.

    Begs the question who is first in the pecking order? Townend is a very good young jockey…

    #193025
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    Young Townend is some horseman alright. If he keeps the head right, he’s got the ability to go right to the top.

    Wouldn’t read too much into the jockey bookings though. Patrick did nothing wrong on Cousin Vinny last year and he knows the horse better than anyone.

    #193089
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    Wonder if he’d keep the ride all season including Cheltenham?

    #193298
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    Townend is one of the best jockeys riding in Ireland at the moment, he has a great future ahead of him. For what its worth, I think the Tramp Stamp won’t be disgraced in this company and is over priced.

    JohnJ.

    #193355
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    Hmmm, really don’t know what to make of that.

    I know they went no pace, but couldn’t believe the difference in times of the first two races, first race over 10 seconds quicker.

    #193373
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    Cousin Vinny was the one to take out of the race on his hurdling debut. He led the field for most of the contest and will surely be better with a stronger pace, good ground and less prominent tactics.

    Hurricane Fly, who had the experience of thirteen career starts before today, travelled and jumped well. He’s obviously got a good engine.

    #193377
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    I think the Cousin Vinny bubble was well and truly burst and it will ake a lot more than good ground for him to compete wih the likes of Hurrican Fly.

    Bumper form can be so misleading as so many good horses simply aren’t mature enough to cope with Cheltenham and 1 year can make a huge difference.

    On that performance I will be suprised of you even see him at the Festivalnever mind winning anything there.

    #193378
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    I think the Cousin Vinny bubble was well and truly burst and it will ake a lot more than good ground for him to compete wih the likes of Hurrican Fly.

    Bumper form can be so misleading as so many good horses simply aren’t mature enough to cope with Cheltenham and 1 year can make a huge difference.

    On that performance I will be suprised of you even see him at the Festivalnever mind winning anything there.

    Huh? I’m not a huge a fan of the horse, but writing him off because he was unable to win a Grade 1 on his very first hurdles start is insane

    #193379
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    I think the Cousin Vinny bubble was well and truly burst and it will ake a lot more than good ground for him to compete wih the likes of Hurrican Fly.

    Bumper form can be so misleading as so many good horses simply aren’t mature enough to cope with Cheltenham and 1 year can make a huge difference.

    On that performance I will be suprised of you even see him at the Festivalnever mind winning anything there.

    A bit premature to say his bubble has been burst, Fist.

    As I alluded to, CV was making his debut over timber on just his fourth career start. Hurricane Fly had the benefit of thirteen career starts before today.

    Bumper form can be misleading, but he became the first horse to complete the Cheltenham – Punchestown double and was very impressive in doing so. He’s obviously a very good horse.

    I thought the horse jumped well and he obviously handles Cheltenham, so I’d be very surprised if he doesn’t turn up at The Festival. The Supreme Novices’ wil be his target, I believe.

    It wasn’t just the ground. I think he’ll be better for the experience and a stronger pace. The hurly-burly of a Cheltenham novice race will be perfect for him.

    He’s entered in a Navan novice hurdle on December 14th, so if he comes out of this race OK, we could know more then.

    #193381
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    I don’t see how you can write-off Cousin Vinny on the strength of that race, Fists, given he probably just shades it at the weights.

    That said, I’m very happy with the outcome. For a horse that has won over 2m5f in Auteuil’s mud, Hurricane Fly showed plenty of pace in the straight after they had crawled round, and he looks very versatile indeed. Donna’s Palm is no mug, and HF can surely go onto better things from here.

    #193385
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    Don’t think you can read anything out of that race, it was run at ridiculous pace, it was like a flat race at Longchamp. Slow pace and a sprint for the last furlong.

    JohnJ

    #193413
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    Don’t think you can read anything out of that race, it was run at ridiculous pace, it was like a flat race at Longchamp. Slow pace and a sprint for the last furlong.

    JohnJ

    If that’s the case (i didn’t see the race) then it’s like a hurdle at Auteuil – still think that HF is the best novice hurdler in training and whichever race he goes for at Cheltenham – Ballymore or Supreme I can’t see him being beaten.

    #193414
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    Bold statement IS, the race was run at a shocking pace, it will be interesting to see how he copes when he has to go at a good clip.

    JohnJ.

    #193452
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    I didn’t see the TV coverage but I’d expect WPM to be delighted with Cousin Vinny today and vindicated for the brave decision to take on the best first time out. He jumped beautifully and for me either blew up or got a bit tapped for toe (or both) between the last two. He was staying on again at the finish and IMO, the front two won’t beat him in the New Year.
    I haven’t looked at the prices for the Spureme, but I doubt he’s any bigger than he was this morning. The winner is a totally different flat type and has a good turn of foot, but I wonder if he’ll get up the hill at Chelt- maybe more of an Aintree type like Binocular :lol:

    #193457
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    Bold statement IS, the race was run at a shocking pace, it will be interesting to see how he copes when he has to go at a good clip.

    JohnJ.

    True enough but given his flat form I wouldn’t expect a true run race to inconvenience him at all. Would be more concerned by ground but even that wouldn’t concern me too much.

    #193460
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    The winner is a totally different flat type and has a good turn of foot, but I wonder if he’ll get up the hill at Chelt- maybe more of an Aintree type like Binocular :lol:

    Hurricane Fly has won over 21f at Auteuil – there are no doubts about him getting up the hill, Carv.

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