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Tbh I think the fav will take a lot of beating here as this is as weak a queen mary I can remember, in terms of the home challenge. Last years was stronger from that point of view and a Wesley Ward runner ran away with it. I can’t actually recall any British runner in this field winning a race and my thinking “Wow, that could be a Queen Mary horse”
That’s why I’ve gone with Madame Dancealot as she impressed me more in defeat than others have in winning. I also liked Reeh’s attitude even though she got beat at Nottingham.
Quince Dolly is another one to throw into the mix as her sire does well if soft is in the description, but yes if Lady Aurelia handles the ground I doubt they will see which way she went.
Would tend to agree with that. Lady Aurelia and Madam Dancealot my two bets for this one. Lady Aurelia looked by far the most impressive of the American juveniles coming over this year, while Madam Dancealot looks an excellent e/w at 20/1. Finished second to Mehmaas on her only run and in front of Full Intention, who ran a stunner in fourth in the Windsor Castle yesterday.
There’s no doubting Lady Aurelia is very decent, but winning easily over
4 1/2f in a 3 horse race on fast ground doesn’t fill me with confidence
for a tough 5f on soft at Ascot. She may turn out to be excellent, but on
what’s been shown so far I’d rather have the 9/1 about KACHESS,
who looked very impressive at Goodwood a couple of weeks ago. It wasn’t the
strongest race, but it was the way she won that impressed me.At a bigger price, I also think the 20/1 that Sky Bet are offering on KOCOLLADA
is an excellent e/w bet.WOW!! That was impressive! What does Wesley Ward do to his fillies? Did she she look a lot bigger than the other horses or was that just me?
Well done Wes Ward. Exceptional performance. You wouldn’t have thought she was running on soft ground. Hopefully, she trains on.
WOW!! That was impressive! What does Wesley Ward do to his fillies? Did she she look a lot bigger than the other horses or was that just me?
Personally all the fawning over her performance puts a slight sour taste in my mouth. It’s the same sour taste you get when Armstrong wins the tour de france or when Sharapova wins a tennis tournament.
perhaps the english two year olds should be given more of a level playing field and allowed to be given drugs from an early stage in their development.
WOW!! That was impressive! What does Wesley Ward do to his fillies? Did she she look a lot bigger than the other horses or was that just me?
Personally all the fawning over her performance puts a slight sour taste in my mouth. It’s the same sour taste you get when Armstrong wins the tour de france or when Sharapova wins a tennis tournament.
perhaps the english two year olds should be given more of a level playing field and allowed to be given drugs from an early stage in their development.
You have quoted as a comparison people who have been found guilty of breaking rules. What rule has she broken?
WOW!! That was impressive! What does Wesley Ward do to his fillies? Did she she look a lot bigger than the other horses or was that just me?
Personally all the fawning over her performance puts a slight sour taste in my mouth. It’s the same sour taste you get when Armstrong wins the tour de france or when Sharapova wins a tennis tournament.
perhaps the english two year olds should be given more of a level playing field and allowed to be given drugs from an early stage in their development.
You have quoted as a comparison people who have been found guilty of breaking rules. What rule has she broken?
Nothing technically (then again Armstrong never failed a drugs test either) but that’s the third time his two year olds have destroyed the queen mary field, perhaps they are all just much better athletes?
More likely they are given some sort of drugs in an early stage of their development. I would call that an unfair advantage.
I see this was posted on another forum:
WESLEY WARD’S historic sortie from the US to Royal Ascot was almost grounded after his licence was suspended for the latest in a collection of medication violations that would provoke astonishment in Britain but is regarded much less seriously in the US.
The day after Cannonball was narrowly beaten in the Group 1 Golden Jubilee Stakes on the final day of the Royal meeting, the American trainer began a 15-day suspension for breaching a threshold limit for clenbuterol, a bronchodilator used to improve breathing.
All of Ward’s Royal Ascot runners were drug tested and the results were negative, but the appearance of US-trained horses in Britain raises questions about the BHA’s regulatory response to the long-term use of clenbuterol in other jurisdictions, while the catalogue of drug infringements racked up by Ward, and the penalties imposed for them, provide striking evidence of the contrasting attitudes to equine medication in the US and UK.
Ward made history when Strike The Tiger won the Windsor Castle Stakes and Jealous Again, subsequently bought by Sheikh Mohammed, won the Queen Mary Stakes, but a positive test returned after Notonthesamepage’s victory in the $100,000 Spectacular Bid Stakes at Gulfstream Park in January almost scuppered Ward’s Ascot plans.
Connections requested a second test, which confirmed the presence of clenbuterol above the permitted threshold. In Britain, clenbuterol is a prohibited substance and Notonthesamepage would have been automatically disqualified.
The Gulfstream Park stewards did not disqualify Notonthesamepage nor redistribute the purse, but fined Ward $1,000 and, against a background of multiple previous infringements, suspended him for 15 days. It was decided that the suspension would not start until after Royal Ascot.
In the US, clenbuterol is categorised as a class 3 substance, one less likely to affect a horse’s performance than class 1 or 2 drugs but in the same category as anabolic steroids”
Widely used in training – it has been suggested that 95 per cent of racehorses in California are trained on it – clenbuterol’s presence on raceday in the US, above a threshold limit, is an offence.
Dr Tim Morris, the BHA’s director of equine science and welfare, said: “We don’t know how widely used clenbuterol is in Britain but our testing programme suggests that it is not a big feature of training here.
“Clenbuterol dilates the airways and is likely to give a horse an advantage on raceday, so we wouldn’t want it present then. If it is used on a long-term basis it can also have an anabolic effect, indirectly building muscle, a positive test result would trigger automatic disqualification of the horse and a penalty for the trainer.”
The penalty depends on the circumstances of the drug’s administration but Morris indicated that, if it was one of a series of offences or there was evidence of long-term administration with a view to improving a horse’s performance, a major penalty could be expected.
This raises the question of whether or not horses trained abroad, legally and routinely given clenbuterol, should be allowed to race in Britain, given that the long-term anabolic effect of the drug may give such horses an advantage.
Does cast doubt on the “fantastic” performances of his horses imo. But while the public still lap it up, and the channel team fawn over his horses, little will be done.
It can seem curmudgeonly to question a spellbinding performance like that, but logic suggests it merits some objective analysis.
She does look a very strong filly, if not tall, and perhaps she is just freakish in her build at that age. Although Lasix is permitted in the States, I don’t know what else trainers can use, especially on horses not in competition.
Lasix alone would allow you to work a horse beyond the stress levels of unmedicated horses; that alone could help build muscle, but at that age, I wouldn’t have thought it would have made such a difference.
Anyway, barring proof positive, perhaps we should just enjoy the filly and look forward to her next race.
thejudge – my post crossed with your latest one: a steroid based drug would explain a lot
thejudge – my post crossed with your latest one: a steroid based drug would explain a lot
Yes mate. Actually if it was up to me (thank god it’s not) I would ban any overseas runners until their countries get in line with British drug testing laws under which our racing is run.
Although that would obviously massively detract from the meeting as a whole, it would at least make it a level playing field. Our british two year olds simply can’t compete with that. I recall last year Euston Angel was a serious horse that I really fancied for the queen mary but she had no hope against that beast. They got their revenge in the Nunthorpe although I feel the massive effort expended having to reel that filly in has cost Mecca’s angel this year as she simply doesn’t look the same filly.
Interesting to discover as well that Ward has even been found guilty of transgressing the famously lax american drug rules.
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